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Werner, Martin: The Formation of Christian Dogma Werner is a flaming modernist typical of almost all university professors of religion. But in utter deception, JW's fail to tell us that Werner labels JW's as Polytheists! Werner, Martin: The Formation of Christian Dogma How the Watchtower quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "In the Primitive Christian era there was no sign of any kind of Trinitarian problem or controversy, such as later produced violent conflicts in the Church. The reason for this undoubtedly lay in the fact that, for Primitive Christianity, Christ was . . . a being of the high celestial angel-world, who was created and chosen by God for the task of bringing in, at the end of the ages, . . . the Kingdom of God." (The Formation of Christian Dogma, An Historical ... The embarrassing nature of the ensuing situation had already revealed itself in that the Church at the beginning of the transformation-crisis exalted the records of the original form of Christianity as ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Werner.htm

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Biblical Trinity is not borrowed from the pagans! ... We seek this in vain in the triadic formulae of the NT. ... Early Christianity itself, however, does not yet have the problem of the Trinity in ... the idea of the oneness of the Christian concept of God against all reproaches that Christianity introduces a new, more sublime form of polytheism. ... How, then, should such a Christ, himself a part of the creation, be able to achieve the redemption of the world? On the whole, the Christian Church ... of polytheism and of deifying the creature." (The Formation of Christian Dogma, An Historical Study of its Problems; Martin Werner, p160, Werner is a modernist who also advocates Angel Christology commenting on ... JW's have not comprehended that if they had the Governing Body themselves sit down and explain their view of God to the Hindu's (Father-true God, Son-a ... Within the Watchtower article, Jehovah's Witnesses deliberately fail to tell you that Norton or Lamson is an anti-trinitarian. They always tell you when ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-pagan.htm

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Commentary on what the early Christians believed about the Trinity ... This is understandable, for the problem which principally exercised them was the relation of Christ to the Godhead. Nevertheless, being loyal churchmen, they made ... In spite of incoherencies, however, the lineaments of a Trinitarian doctrine are clearly discernible in the Apologists. The Spirit was for them the Spirit of God; ... In this connection there must be recalled the fact, established earlier (p. 125), that every significant theologian of the Church, in the pre-Nicene period, had actually represented a Subordinationist Christology. (The Formation of Christian Dogma, An Historical Study of its Problems; Martin Werner, p234, Werner is a modernist who also ... into a single affirmation that the Son is not made but born of the Father, true God from true God, and consubstantial with the Father. (The Triune God, Edmund J. ... No amount of misrepresentation can hide the truth of the Christian belief summarized so well by Paul, "For in Him dwells all the fullness of Deity in bodily form" ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-apostolic-fathers.htm

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Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library ... Then, however, Grillmeier goes on to mention a comment by Karl Rahner that Chalcedon was not an end but a beginning, refers approvingly to Pope John's call to the church at ... ; but no less definitely so, if we opt for some form of the Ground-of-our-being theology associated particularly with the names of Paul Tillich and the Bishop of Woolwich. ... about the relation of his inner being to God's being soon arose in the first Christian communities, and asserts itself in the New Testament documents, especially in ... so much greater than that possessed by the Fathers--does not this Christological problem call for fresh and far more thoroughgoing elucidation ? Martin Werner, of course, has offered a solution of it in words both forthright and provocative. The dogma of Christ's deity, he has said, turned Jesus into another Hellenistic redeemer- god, and thus was a myth propagated behind which the historical Jesus completely disappeared! (The Formation of Christian Dogma (1957), p. 298.) ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Rylands.htm

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Sabbatatrians Refuted and Sabbath keepers Exposed: 2011 AD ... Hanson summarizes a variety of opinions submitted by various Sabbath-keeping theologians, but the one that fixes the problem the best ... concept of a continuous weekly cycle, and added the veneration of the "sun god" from Mithraism to create the Roman calendar used today. ... Other Feast Days are determined using a form of the Lunar calendar. Constantine's calendar was modified slightly by Pope Gregory into ... Most readers do not know some important things about the Seventh-day Adventist Church and the lunar calendar Sabbath controversy: 1. ... accepted an AD 31 date for the crucifixion-a date which differs from the AD 33 date accepted by most Christian scholars and which is supported better by historical and astronomical data. ... wrote about the obsolescence of the Sabbath, including Martin Luther and, later, the Lutherans who drafted the Augsburg Confession. ... for Today (New York: Harper & Row, Publishers, 1973), pp. 31-2; Werner Forster, Palestinian Judaism in New Testament Times (Edinburgh: ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-lying-for-god-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd ... II. Dating Revelation from ancient literary sources Fluff vs. Scripture: The problem of using ancient literary sources to date ... In the first he gives his own opinion of the dogma; and in the second he treats of the Revelation of John, and mentioning Nepos ... For some it was so obvious that Nero equaled 666 that doing an actual long form calculation was not needed. Instead, they called ... Take for example the universal record of the early church down to AD 600 (and beyond) that Christians stopped keeping the ... to worship the emperor or die! 3. Late-dater's promote the imperial cult as the key source of Christian persecution: a. ... the idea of the "emperor worship cult" where Christians supposedly died unless they confessed Caesar as God. It is noteworthy, that Hailey never references Josephus once in his entire HISTORICAL introduction. b. ... Martin Luther: "The organ in the worship Is the ensign of Baal" (Martin Luther is quoted, Erinnerungs Schrifft etlicher vom Adel ... ... https://www.bible.ca/revelation/

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Trinity: Arius and the Nicene Creed also, is a form of Arianism; they regard Arius as a forerunner of Charles Taze Russell, the founder of their movement. (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1979, Arianism, Vol. I, p.509) "Arius, Waldo, John Wycliffe, and Martin Luther were ... Arianism, a Christian heresy first proposed early in the 4th century by the Alexandrian presbyter Arius. It affirmed that ... "Arianism: Up to this point the Trinitarian debate had taken place entirely in the West. We now move to the East, where the debate became a great controversy. It lasted sixty years, involved the entire eastern church, the western ... He taught that the Logos or Reason of God dwelt in the man Jesus. This Logos had also been in Moses and in the prophets; in ... of the resources of the Aristotelian dialectics" (Outlines of the History of Dogma, Adolf Harnack, p251) "Arianism: ... ... the creature. (The Formation of Christian Dogma, An Historical Study of its Problems; Martin Werner, p160, Werner is a modernist who also advocates Angel ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-arius.htm

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Biblical Subordination expressed by scholars ... Perhaps his nearest approach to a solution of this problem turns not on the 'mission' of Christ by the Father but on the kenosis whereby being 'in the form of God ... [he] emptied himself, taking the form of a servant' (Phil 2.6, ... All this underlines the point that primitive Christianity did not have an explicit doctrine of the Trinity such as was subsequently elaborated in the creeds of the early church." (New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Brown, Colin, 1932, God, vol 2, p84, J. Schneider) The NT does not approach the metaphysical problem of subordination, as it approaches no metaphysical problem. It offers no room for a statement of the relations ... This original position, firm and manifest as it was, was able to maintain itself for a long time. 'All the great pre-Nicene theologians represented the subordination of the Logos to God." (The Formation of Christian Dogma, An Historical Study of its Problems; Martin Werner, p125, Werner is a modernist who also ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-subordination-scholars.htm

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Sabbathgate 1888 by Kerry Wynne The problem is that I knew, deep in my heart, that God was not fooled by my outwardly obedient behavior. I sensed ... of Sunday [is] that it was not introduced into the Christian Church until the beginning of the second century" ... teachings are just as unacceptable to historical Adventists as they are to Evangelicals. By 1888 SDA leaders knew that Christians abandoned Sabbath-keeping in the Second Century, hundreds of years before there was a Roman Catholic Church, proving that Ellen White lied when she said that God showed her the pope did it! ... York: Harper & Row, Publishers, 1973), pp. 31-2; Werner Forster, Palestinian Judaism in New Testament Times ... While arguments from silence are among the weakest form of evidence and fail to qualify as "proof," it is ... Dr. Bacchiocchi turns to Dr. Troy Martin for support for his idea that this passage in Galatians is a reference ... Press, which is affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Seminary, gives it the weight of official Church dogma. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbathgate-1888ad-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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Catholic Encyclopedia's and Dictionaries Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote & False Dilemma: Trinitarian Too many to number here. See below. Catholic ... Athanasian Creed: 'the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.' ... Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian." (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, Trinity, p ... I. THE DOGMA of the Trinity-The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion-the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons the Father the Son, and the Holy ... This the Church teaches is the revelation regarding 'God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God came upon earth to deliver ... among the 2d-century Apologists, little more than a focusing of the problem as that of plurality within the unique Godhead. ... ... has been incorporated and is now operative in Roman Catholic historical and systematic theology (see DOCTRINE, DEVELOPMENT OF). ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Catholic.htm

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Fortman, Edmund: The Triune God The doctrine of the Triune God has had an amazing history. Convinced that this doctrine is a Christian doctrine that did and could originate only from divine ... Biblical witness to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit to a dogmatic formulation of a doctrine of the Triune God, we look first to the Eastern Church where most of this development took place. ... They gave solid evidence of a belief in three pre-existent 'beings,' but they furnished no trinitarian doctrine, no awareness of a trinitarian problem. "The Jews never ... Paul calls Him the image of God, Lord, Son of God, Christ. and Savior; he says that He subsists in the form of God and is equal to God; he assigns to Him the ... see what its status was on the eve of the Nicene conflict that was to play such a tremendous part in the further development of trinitarian thought and dogma. ... presentation of the documents and writings that manifest the historical development of this doctrine, but hopefully it will not substantially distort these. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Fortman.htm

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SUMMARY: PROOF that TRINITY is NOT of PAGAN origin! Arians (Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Unitarians, The Way International) Modalists (United Pentecostal Church, UPCI) Muslims ... compare the Christian trinity with pagan trinities." Six reasons why Christians didn't borrow trinity from the Pagans! Reason # Quoting themselves as their expert! click for documentation Reason #1: Quoting themselves as their expert! Sources, authorities and "historical experts" ... Jehovah's Witnesses, for example have thousands of publications to chose from! Many of their examples of pagan Trinitarian gods, are nothing ... we know of says Trinity doctrine is of pagan origin!) The problem is that these same sources ALSO claim that Christians borrowed most ... modernists" (who deny inspiration, but believe in God as a Trinity) and say, "see even Trinitarians know their doctrine is Pagan origin!" ... It has been common practice for devotees to select the form under which the divine is worshipped, and such a deity is called the isladevati. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-not-pagan-reasons.htm

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Encyclopædia Britannica ... The situation became further aggravated by the conceptions of the special personal character of the manifestation of God developed by way of the historical figure of Jesus ... to raise Christian dogma into the sphere of the conceptual, took the Christian Trinitarian doctrine as the basis for his system of philosophy and, above all, for his ... Christian dogma was interpreted purely anthropologically and was reduced to the idea of human togetherness-a delayed victory of a philosophy of religion over Christian dogma... Theology has thereby been confronted with the problem of Trinity in a new form, which, in view of the Christian experience of God as an experience of the presence of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, cannot be eliminated. (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1979, Christianity, Vol. 4, p.485) GOD THE SON: Dogmatic teachings about the figure of Jesus Christ go back to the spontaneous faith experiences of the original church. The faithful of the early church experienced and recognized the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Britannica.htm

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Bulwarks of the Faith Foy E Wallace JR. Refuting Dogmas Catholicism ... ... The Vatican knows it, and con-sequently clamped the papal ban on public debate. They dare not face us in the open forum nor meet us on the polemic plat-form... I believe, friends, that the story of Nehemiah furnishes both a doctrinal and historical parallel in the work and worship of the church. I THE HISTORICAL PARALLEL The story ... Jerusalem-sacred and secular. Holy ground to the Jew, and events no less sacred to the Christian; the temple of Solomon, the house of God; the ark of the BULWARKS OF THE FAITH covenant, the name of ... Let me have three or four song books and I will illustrate it. (Songbooks were handed the speaker). When Martin Luther came on the scene the Bible was ... the growth of ecclesiastical systems of error, of a return to the New Testament church, and the repudiation of all human organization, doctrine and dogma. ... From the viewpoint of Romanists themselves they have here a problem that can never be solved, for tra-dition in the very nature of things is not ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/catholic/Catholic-church-doctrine-Bulwarks-of-the-Faith-Foy-E-Wallace-JR-Refuting-Dogmas-Catholicism-Protestant-Denominationalism-1951AD.htm

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Part1: Pagan Section: Trinity Watchtower BOOKLET: Should You ... ... Another satanic Watchtower quote! Note that the source differentiates between "trinity dogma" and "Biblical trinity", a concept few JW's ... However, contending that since the Trinity is such a confusing mystery, it must have come from divine revelation creates another major problem. ... It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century . . . Although Scripture does not give us a formulated ... mystery is at least implicitly the word of God, hence part of the Christian credo. On the other hand, it is not, as already seen, directly and immediately word of God." The source goes on to say that "the Trinitarian mystery" as taught in the 4th century, can be supported "a wealth ... Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian." However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the ... View Origen quotes. Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries: "The modern popular ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-JW-SYBTT-Watchtower-BOOKLET-Should-You-Believe-the-Trinity-EXPOSED-REFUTED-pagan-section.htm

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Harnack, Adolf: Outlines of the History of Dogma The Christian religion in the 3rd century made no compromise with any of the pagan religions and kept far away from the numerous ... But, as always, the old became new by conservation and the new was placed under the protection of the old. What the Church utilized in ... very different from the notions which Greeks had been able to form of it. (Adolf Harnack, Outlines of the History Of Dogma, vol 1, ch ... being who only becomes God in becoming man, and who is neither God nor man." (Outlines of the History of Dogma, Adolf Harnack, p251) Even religious syncretism is already found ... invention of mechanically-atoning consecrations (sacraments)" not trinitarian theology! (The very thing JW's wished Harnack had said. ... The true Gospel is regarded as consisting in the simple facts about Jesus and teachings of the historical Jesus, who can thus be ... Harnack did not see the Greeks in themselves as Greeks as the problem. He argued that any intellecutualization of the faith was a ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Harnack.htm

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Trinity Attackers refuted! (Watchtower's: Should You Believe ... ... Another satanic Watchtower quote! Note that the source differentiates between "trinity dogma" and "Biblical trinity", a concept few JW's ... However, contending that since the Trinity is such a confusing mystery, it must have come from divine revelation creates another major problem. ... It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century . . . Although Scripture does not give us a formulated ... mystery is at least implicitly the word of God, hence part of the Christian credo. On the other hand, it is not, as already seen, directly and immediately word of God." The source goes on to say that "the Trinitarian mystery" as taught in the 4th century, can be supported "a wealth ... Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian." However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the ... View Origen quotes. Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries: "The modern popular ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-frames-start-page-SYBTT.htm

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Encyclopedia of Pentecostal History of Tongues: 150 AD - 1901 ... ... "There is little evidence of any form of glossolalia during the Middle Ages in either East or West." (The Charismatic Movement, 1975, Michael ... every false teacher from spiritualist Edgar Cayce to L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, has claimed revelation of some kind from God. ... It is filled with detours, dead ends, giant chuckholes-and very little else. Some charismatics are troubled about this problem. (Charismatic ... Other post-apostolic instances of glossolalia have been recorded throughout the history of the Christian church: among the Montanists (heretical ... At least one leading charismatic writer, Larry Christenson, even claims the Montanist movement as part of the charismatic historical ... For example, we read that both St. Augustine and Martin Luther spoke in tongues. (Carl Brumback, What Meaneth This? A Pentecostal Answer to a ... Quakers (Friends) beliefs are a little hard to quantify, since Friends do not believe in having a fixed Creed or Dogma, but rather in seeking ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-history.htm

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Acapella Responsive Singing, No Instruments in first century ... ... in Synagogue and Early Church, Eric Werner, p334, 1959 AD) 7. "Instruments were not used in the worship of the ancient synagogue. ... The Jews had developed an alternative form of worship independent of the Temple and animal sacrifice. It was the rational worship of ... Cappella Music in the Public Worship of the Church, Everett Ferguson, p106, 2013 AD) 12. "The background antecedent of early Christian worship was Jewish synagogue worship. Our Lord Jesus attended and participated in the synagogue (Luke 4:16). It did not use instrumental music." (Historical Evidence About Instrumental Music, Frank ... It was inferred from the phrase "in the name of the Lord" that ministering to God (Deut. 18:7) required song, because in song the ... Martin Luther: "The organ in the worship Is the ensign of Baal" (Martin Luther is quoted by Mcclintock & Strong's Encyclopedia ... but I don't think that matters today" reveal a larger problem in their faith that leads ultimately to universalism. 5. Apart ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Acapella-responsive-singing-non-instrumental-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-worship-prototype-ancient-Synagogue-ritual-liturgy-worship.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Philippians 2:5-8 ... The death of Christ poses a huge logistics problem for Unitarians because they always deny man consciously survives death (Lk 16:19-31; 20:37-38). In a perfect ... Ralph P. Martin, Philippians, Semi Kenotic He never emptied Himself of the fulness of His Godhead, or His "BEING on an equality with God" ... His "taking on Him the ... The translation "made himself of no reputation" eliminates the need for these distracting arguments. ... He did not "empty"; He "took on" the form of a man -- i.e., was fully God and fully man -- God manifest in the flesh. Anderson, G. W., Trinitarian Bible Society, ... Wiersbe's Expository Outlines on the New Testament · There is the suggestion in this passage of disunity in the Philippian church (see also 4:1-3). Paul appeals to them on the basis of their Christian experience to have unity of mind ... The Jerome Biblical Commentary, Brown, R. E., Fitzmyer, J. A., & Murphy, R. E. · 6. who: Paul proposes to the Philippians the historical Christ who enjoyed according ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians2-6.htm

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242 Dates for the End of the world!!! Date Setters! ... Ademar of Chabannes produces some 500 folios of historical fiction in which apocalyptic themes play a major role. 1030-33: terrible famine throughout France ... Came up with date using this formula (Luther Martin, Date Setters, Guardian of Truth, Sept. 15, 1994) 1843-1844 William Miller was the founder of an ... At the time, I knew Hinkle's vision didn't match up with scripture. From a proper reading of Bible prophecy, the only thing that God could possible rip from the earth would be the Christian Church, and I don't think God ... Sukyo Mahikari A secretive Japanese group said by former members to spread a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic dogma, it has established itself as a charitable ... Sun Magazine reported in its 1997-OCT-14 issue that Noah's Ark has been discovered intact in undamaged form on a slope near Mount Ararat in Turkey. Inside ... We will expose that the problem with Camping and every other date setter, is that they believe the Rapture doctrine, which was invented in 1830 AD by John ... ... https://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

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The Myth Of Psychotherapy, Thomas Szasz, 1979 AD ... To my youthful mind Hannibal and Rome symbolized the conflict between the tenacity of Jewry and the organization of the Catholic church. And the increasing ... A Christian came up to me and with a single blow knocked off my cap into the mud and shouted: "Jew! get off the pavement!" "And what did you do?' I asked. 'I went ... were Freud's contemporaries, observes Schorske, "the generational revolt against the fathers took the specific historical form of rejection of their fathers' liberal creed. ... Vengeance and forgiveness are important themes in all religions, especially in Judaism and Christianity. Jahweh is a vengeful god, punishing remorselessly through ... correctly, that Freud's interest in these matters derived partly from his unceasing obsession with the "Jewish problem" and partly from the rising tide of Nazism. ... On August 13, 1960, he writes to Pastor Werner Niederer: "But lay psychologists, too, are necessarily obliged to work together with doctors because the neuroses are ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/the-myth-of-psychotherapy-thomas-szasz-1979ad.htm

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Dictionary of the secret language of Scientology ... It is based on the Christian calendar, but with a base year of 1950 with the release of Hubbard's book "Dianetics"; thus AD 15 = ... Class XII Auditor, trained to deliver the very expensive L Rundowns or Ls at Flag in Clearwater, FLA, that use a form of auditing ... A serious problem exists in our society as a result of the emergence of groups, popularly called cults, using mind control (undue ... CXI, the Church of Xenu International. A mocking take-off of CSI "set up" by "General" Martin Ottmann, "Chairman of the Board" CXI. Other members include: "Admirals" Alvin Brattli, Birgitta Dagnell, and ... Self, Sex, Group, Mankind, Animals and Plants, Universe, Theta, God. Dynamism, Enid Vien's breakaway movement from Scientology; a ... ("therapy") procedure involving stripping away "bad" thoughts or wrong ideas and replacing them with the proper cultic dogma. ... renders it null and void, as the slaughter of seven million Jews in WWII is a singularly momentous and ghastly historical event. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/scientology-dictonary-terms.htm

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Debate with Catholic on Sola Scriptura (Riggs Vs Lopez) ... According to the World Christian Encyclopedia (Oxford University Press', 1983), as of 1982 there were 20,800 Christian denominations with ... Succession to the apostles with the authority of the apostles; 2) what is to be protected is the word of God in oral form; i.e. tradition. ... If we hold that 2 Thes. 2 only refers to traditions held by the Thessalonians he is writing to, he digs himself into a deeper problem. ... Let us examine a few verses later: Eph. 3:10 reads: "that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in ... I will quote from the founder of Sola Scriptura, Martin Luther: "We are obliged to yield many things to the Papists--that with them is the ... Nowhere does anyone say here that only the Apostles can pass the Holy Spirit on. Simon wants this gift through money (8:18-21). If dogma ... can no longer employ the so-called Formal Principle without rendering itself unworthy of credence in the eyes of historical analysis." ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-debate-riggs-lopez.htm

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The Decepto-Meter goes crazy when you bring it near the Watchtower ... ... But in utter deception, JW's fail to tell us that Werner labels JW's as Polytheists! Werner, Martin The Formation of Christian Dogma Deceptive Quote Christianity Trasher: Denies incarnation Hick completely denies the incarnation, but is so liberal in his view of the Bible that not even Christadelphians, who also deny the incarnation, would want to quote from this guy! Hick, John The Myth of God Incarnate Deceptive quote Secular Give false impression ... That is only one less than Christ at 15/22! Reglan never discusses Christianity in his book, but Muslims have drawn conclusions for Reglan. Reglan, Lord The Hero Deceptive quote Self-Quoting Anti-Trinitarian For once JW's and other anti-Trinitarians have found someone ... To quote a Unitarian theologian, as an authority to prove the pagan origin of Trinity, is about as trustworthy and believable as quoting the a Catholic Bishop to prove that Peter was the first Pope! Click to View Lamson, Alvan The Church of the First Three Centuries ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decepto-meter.htm

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Anatomy of an Epidemic, Robert Whitaker, 2010 AD ... of these psychoses." fn 30 P. Deniker, "The neuroleptics: a historical survey," Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 82, suppl. 358(1990): ... but the person I most wanted to hear speak was Martin Harrow, who is a psychologist at the University of Illinois College of Medicine. ... "It was not surprising that medical students accepted the dogma of biomedical reductionism in psychiatry uncritically; they had no time to ... said former NAMI president Agnes Hatfield in 1991, was that "mental illness is not a mental health problem; it is a biological illness. ... In order to sell our society on the soundness of this form of care, psychiatry has had to grossly exag-gerate the value of its new drugs, ... It was all so ordinary that this easily could have been the wrap-up moment to a PTA meeting or a church social, and as I walked to the car, it ... I could start to plan. I wasn't talking to the devil anymore. Jesus and God weren't battling it out in my head." Her father put it this way: ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/anatomy-of-an-epidemic-robert-whitaker-2010ad1.htm

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Master Index of Quotes of Quotes used to trash the Trinity in ... Click to View Click to View Master Index of Quotes of Quotes used to trash the Trinity in the Watchtower's, "Should you believe the Trinity?" and other anti-Trinitarian books. Click to View Sort by "Author" Click to View Sort by "Book Title" Sorted Alphabetically by Author Use "Control + F" on your keyboard ... Bulletin of The John Rylands Library Schaff, Philip History of the Christian Church and New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia Schneider, J. Theologisches Begriffslexikon zum Neuen Testament Smith, William A Dictionary Of The Bible Storr, G. C. & Flatt Biblical Theology Taylor, Vincent 1. The person of Christ in NT teaching 2. The Expository Times, magazine Thayer, Joseph H. Greek-English Lexicon Weigall, Arthur The Paganism in Our Christianity Wells, H.G. 1. Short History of the World. 2. The Outline Of History, Being a Plain History of Life and Mankind. 3. God the Invisible King Werner, Martin The Formation of Christian Dogma Wierwille, Victor Paul Jesus Christ is Not God Woodrow, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-master-index-quotes.htm

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Biblical Subordination expressed by early Fathers and apologists ... Theology almost universally taught that the Son was subordinate to the Father, but Arius expressed this kind of Christology in a provocative way. ... The slogan of Arius and his allies soon came to be this: "There was when he was not." (Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant, p160) All the great pre-Nicene theologians represented the subordination of the Logos to God." ... "Every significant theologian of the Church in the pre-Nicene period, had actually represented a Subordinationist Christology. (The Formation of Christian Dogma, An Historical Study of its Problems; Martin Werner, p125, 234, Werner is a modernist who also advocates angel-Christology) To some extent Origen was a subordinationist, for his attempt to synthesize strict monotheism with a Platonic hierarchical order in the Trinity could have and did have only a subordinationist result. He openly declared that the Son was inferior to the Father and the Holy Spirit to the Son. But he was not an Arian subordinationist ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-subordination-fathers.htm

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Hastings, James: Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics In Indian religion e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of Brahma, siva, and Visnu; and in Egyptian religion with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus, constituting a divine family, like the Father, Mother, and Son in medieval Christian pictures. Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a Trinity. One recalls in particular the Neo-Platonic view of ... Economic and essential trinity:- (a) The transition from the Trinity of experience to the Trinity of dogma is describable in other terms as the transition from the economic or dispensational Trinity ... In any case the orthodox doctrine in its developed form is a Trinity of essence rather than of manifestation, as having to do in the first instance with the subjective rather than the objective Being ... Paul a saving experience of the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and of the love of God, and of the communion of the Holy Ghost; and the theologians of the ancient Church sought to set forth the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hastings.htm

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We have little solid historical evidence before 200 AD about ... This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! Evidence before 200 AD about the canon Go to: ... collection called the New Testament and a two-part collection that comprises our Bible of Old and New Testaments." (Lee Martin McDonald, James A. Sanders, Editors: The Canon Debate; Peter Balla, Evidence for an Early Christian Canon: Second and Third Century, p 372, 2002) Although historians universally admit there is sketchy information about the earliest years of the church, this does not mean the core of the canon was not recognized as we see it today. We have random bits and pieces of historical evidence of varying degree of reliability. ... R. Kalin, The New Testament Canon of Eusebius, p 404, 2002) Problem is that the record of Eusebius, is restricted to that small part of the world where he had influence: Caesarea. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-little-historical-evidence-200AD.htm

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The Error of the Catholic Nicene Trinity Relational Vs. Ontological trinity Trinity of the Bible Vs. Trinity of Dogma economic or dispensational Trinity Vs. essential, immanent or ontological Trinity ... God Kelly, J.N.D.: Early Christian Doctrines Hastings, James, Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics Eliade, Mircea, The Encyclopedia of Religion Warning: Before you continue: As you read the quotes below, it is essential for you to identify the "Trinity that is found in the Bible" vs. the "Trinity that is not found in the Bible"! All the Trinitarian ... In the New Testament we do not find the doctrine of the Trinity in anything like its developed form, not even in the Pauline and Johannine theology, although ... Son and Holy Spirit to a dogmatic formulation of a doctrine of the Triune God, we look first to the Eastern Church where most of this development took place. ... They gave solid evidence of a belief in three pre-existent 'beings,' but they furnished no trinitarian doctrine, no awareness of a trinitarian problem. (The ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-catholic-nicene.htm

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Schaff, Philip: 1. History of the Christian Church. 2. New Schaff ... First the quote, when you read the article, is not saying that Trinity is an error! The errors Schaff refer to are not trinity! Since Schaff is a trinitarian who believes the ... of the Christian Church New York: Scribner's, 1924, vol. 2, p. 566) "The Ontological Doctrine: There is no reason to seek for sources or types of the doctrine of the Trinity outside of Christianity or of the Bible, though in the eighteenth century efforts were made to derive the Christian dogma from Plato, and later from Brahmanism and Parseeism, or, later still, from a Babylonian triad. ... Only an inaccurate exegesis which overlooks the more immediate grounds of interpretation can see references to the Trinity in the plural form of the divine name Elohim, the use ... passages of the Old Testament..." (New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia, Trinity, Doctrine of the; p18) "The doctrine of the divine Trinity is the summarized statement of the historical revelation of redemption for the Christian consciousness of God. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Schaff.htm

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The Church organization and counsels did not give the world the ... This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! The Roman Catholic Church did not give the ... When councils did speak on the subject, their voice was a ratification of what had already become the mind of the church. (Lee Martin McDonald, James A. Sanders, Editors: The Canon Debate; ... James A. Sanders, Editors: The Canon Debate; Peter Balla, Evidence for an Early Christian Canon: Second and Third Century, p 373, 2002) Of interest here is the fact that the ... Church authorities only authorized or sanctioned what had already been in use. (Lee Martin McDonald, James A. Sanders, Editors: The Canon Debate; Kent D. Clarke, The Problem of ... Conclusion: 1. Neither the Roman Catholic or Orthodox church gave the world the Bible or determined the Canon. 2. This was done centuries earlier around 100 AD. 3. Historical ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-church-did-not-give-world-bible.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based ... Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based upon tradition Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Proverbs 8:22 "The created wisdom woman" The first historical reference to wrongly interpreting Prov 8:22 as referring to Christ is 150 AD, Justin Martyr, ... God in the beginning of time" as the Jehovah's Witnesses apply the passage. "From the texts Proverbs 8... which exalt the Wisdom of God and which in the liturgy are applied to Mary, the most beautiful work of God's Wisdom" (New Advent, Catholic encyclopedia, Immaculate ... But now, when the Arians also interpreted the passage in this way, the interpretation was suddenly reckoned as false." (The Formation Of Christian Dogma, Martin Werner, p158. Note: Werner is a liberal modernist whom Catholics and Orthodox frequently quote from) This all proves that tradition did not catch the error. What Clark Carlton misses, is that this example also shows that his beloved "church tradition" also got it wrong! Clark Carlton writes, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-fathers-mistakes.htm

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Ralph P. Martin: The Epistle of Paul to the Philippians Being in very nature God looks back to our Lord's pre-temporal existence as the second person of the trinity. The verbal form translated being, [hyparchon] ... by the seizure of it, viz. equality with God, and chose instead the way of obedient suffering as the pathway to his lordship. Deception exposed: The Watchtower creates the false impression that Martin agrees that Jesus is a creature, when in fact, Martin takes one of several trinitarian views of Phil 2:6. Full documentation of Text: Ralph P. Martin, M.A., ... Thus 'among you' (en hymin) does not imply the inculcation of personal virtue based on a moral example, but means 'in your church fellowship', so sorely ... these verses is attempted by the author in the Tyndale Lecture, An Early Christian Confession: Philippians ii. 5-11 in recent interpretation (Tyndale, 196o), ... The human name 'Jesus' is important not least because it declares that lordly power is seen as committed to the hands of the historical person of Jesus of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Martin.htm

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Introduction to the history of psychiatry Introduction to the History of Psychiatry: For a brief summary of all the historical documents in this section on psychiatric history. Click ... This makes sense since today's chemical psychiatrists don't even believe in God and reject the very existence of the human soul or spirit. This would make today's psychiatrists doctor's of something they do not believe exists! Church ministers were the first experts in helping to ... Institutional psychiatry had its origins as a parallel prison system as a form of behaviour and social control. "The fatal weakness of most ... Construction started in 1507 AD and ended in 1626 AD. D. The protestant reformation: 1517 AD In 1517 AD, Martin Luther publishes the ... Henry destroyed this welfare network of 15,000 local churches [parishes] that were already caring for their poor out of Christian obligation ... Despite the recovery that began in England in the middle of the century, the problem was still unsolved in Cromwell's time, for the Lord Mayor ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-history-introduction.htm

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Kittel, Gerhard: Theological Dictionary of the New Testament Kittle refers to the threefold formulae IN THE BIBLE ITSELF, not later trinitarian dogma! Do Arians believe that polytheism influenced the text in ... But notice that Kittle dismisses this possible thought and gives his opinion that trinitarian doctrine had it origin in the Old Testament, and not ... may be seen most clearly and succinctly in Gal 4:4 ff.: God first sends the Son, and then, to continue the work. The divine work of salvation is thus prosecuted in the historical threefold relation of Father, Son and Spirit. This threefold relation soon found fixed expression in the triadic formulae in 2 C. 13:13, and in I Cor. 12:4-6.2" The form is first found in the baptismal formula in Mt. 28:19; ... More likely, however, is the influence of Jewish models. For in Judaism, as in the early Church, we find triadic formulae, and even formulae with ... We seek this in vain in the triadic formulae of the NT. ... Early Christianity itself, however, does not yet have the problem of the Trinity in ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Kittel.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 1:1 ... Our position is irrefutably solid and the only consistent one. We do give honourable mention to the Modalists, (United Pentecostal church International, UPCI), for ... J. Johnson of California State University, Long Beach: "No justification whatsoever for translating THEOS EN HO LOGOS as 'the Word was a god.' There is no syntactical parallel to Acts 28:6 where there is a statement in indirect discourse; John 1:1 is direct....I am neither a Christian nor a Trinitarian." Kaufman: Dr. Paul L. ... from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation) Mantey: Dr. ... without the article...No idea of inferiority of nature is suggested by the form of expression, which simply affirms the true deity of the Word...in the third ... As you can see, although the NWT is wrong in their use of "a God", it makes no difference and it doesn't help them any. Trinitarians have no more problem with the NWT ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john1-1.htm

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George Salmon's Infallibiliy of the church ... And what is the size of this convenient compilation? The Latin Fathers form two hundred and twenty-two thick volumes; the Greek, one hundred and sixty-seven. But this ... that there were good reasons why God should have granted us in Scripture a more secure channel for conveying Christian truth. [137] e. But if it is alleged that it can be established by uninspired testimony that any doctrine not contained in Scripture is part of the Christian scheme, let the evidence be ... Abundant proof that this dogma had been no part of the faith of the Church, was furnished by von Dollinger, reputed to be the most learned man in Catholicism, and amongst others by two Munich professors, who, under the name of Janus, published a work containing a mass of historical proofs of the novelty of the proposed decrees. These arguments were ... it was to resort for the decision of every dispute, and the solution of every problem, the other Apostles would have so understood it, at least after their minds had ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-salmon-infallibility.htm

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Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity the Watchtower/Arian/Jw view of God known as Angel-Christology, stating that "angel-Christology" is from Pagan origin! The premise of the entire book is that if something was taught before it was written in the Bible, it is of pagan origin. Problem is, Weigall claims to have found ... have been 'the Lord's Day' long before Christian times." (Now that's clear, Leo Schreven, Seventh-day Adventist "Revelation Seminar speaker, Canada, 1994, p101, quoting, The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, 1928, p136) The Church made a sacred day of Sunday ... "largely ... books provide us with a literature which is of first. rate historical importance." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, ... Mark, did not assume its present form until between forty and seventy years after the death of our Lord, and the other Gospels are still later ... the dark and savage doctrine of the Atonement became the central dogma of the new Faith: it is only a matter of astonishment that it is ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Weigall.htm

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Trinity: The role of Constantine in the Nicene creed ... Constantine, (a pagan sun worshipper who knew nothing about Christian Doctrine) was the author of the Nicene creed. This is the impression anti-Trinitarians leave in ... Though there may be doubt about the understanding of 'consubstantial' at Nicea, there can be no doubt about the historical and dogmatic importance of the Council itself. For there the Church definitively rejected the answer that Arius gave to the question he put: Is the Son God or creature? The Council firmly rejected Arius' ... To the present day no one has cleared up the problem of where the emperor got the term. It seems likely that it was suggested to him by his episcopal counselor, ... Luther was uneasy with the term trinity, not the idea of Trinity, for Luther most certainly always was a trinitarian. Luther did not disagree with the Trinity, but ... The Alexandrian party then presented a carefully worked out statement, which they said was a revised form of the Creed of Caesarea, with certain steps taken to close ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-constantine.htm

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Masoretic Text (MT) born in 160 AD at Zippori to 1008 AD. b. "In 1542 the Jewish Masoretic Text was approved in its final form, the Ben-Hayyim edition, superseding all previous editions and preserving ... The Jews in 160-200 AD corrupted the Genesis chronology for anti-Christian purposes unknowingly following in the footsteps of Ezra in 458 BC who, for ... Despite two waves of deliberate Jewish corruptions of their own Hebrew Bible, the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Old Testament retains all the historical and theological information God intended ... Christians corrected this error 60 year error. f. Another huge problem is the population dynamics. From the flood to the Tower of Babel to Abraham is only 358 ... the older age of the earth as seen in today's Septuagint, were identical to the Hebrew Masoretic text at the time of Christ and the first century church. ... Eventually, the Hebrew text of the Old Testament became the preferred source. In AD 723 the Venerable Bede determined that the creation was in 3952 BC. Martin ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/Masoretic-Text-MT-Leningrad-Codex-Bible-manuscripts-Old-Testament-Torah-Tanakh-Hebrew-Rabbi-Yose-ben-Halafta-Zippori-160AD.htm

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Encyclopedia of Pentecostal ministries and preachers ... A common problem with leadership today is their refusal to criticize or judge the false. This is a tragedy for we need that kind of leadership more now than ever! ... One man I observed actually hit a woman in the side with his "sword." (John Arnott, Lake Boren Christian Center A/G, D.V.H. in an e-mail on 07/24/97 11:42 AM) ... Mike Bickel has indicated belief in the following doctrines: A New Form and Standard for Christianity is emerging. It will change our entire understanding of what ... The original initiator of the revival was William Branham. Branham considered himself to be a prophet sent from God to the last Church age who was given 7 visions regarding the ... those of the whore Babylon false church - he was still revered as a true prophet by almost every major Pentecostal and Charismatic ministry (who are Trinitarian). ... His one sentence Statement of Faith is: "holds to the classical faith of positive historical Christianity committed to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior." Schuller ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/tongues-encyclopedia-pentecostal-preachers.htm

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Why I left the Roman Catholic church! (personal testimony) ... to equip the man of God for every good work (2 Tim. 3:16-17). There is not a solitary good work that the Christian can do which is not provided in the Scriptures. ... Catholics claim that the Pope is the visible head of the church. The Catholic book Answer Wisely, by Martin J. Scott says on p. 49, "The pope, therefore, as vicar ... apparent problem of having a church with two heads. Nonetheless, the Scriptures nowhere teach the idea of a visible and invisible head. Jesus said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." (Matt. 28:18; Emp. mine D.R.). Luke 17:20-21 says, "And on being asked by the Pharisees, 'When is the kingdom of God coming?' he ... The young man remained away until the entire sermon had been preached and congregational singing in the form of an invitational hymn had been sung. Then I learned ... Everyone welcomes their use of the public school buses on that basis. But when any school and I mean any school teaches a peculiar religious dogma, it forfeits ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-why-I-left.htm

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Archaeology and the Religions of Canaan and Israel, Beth Alpert ... of Archaeology in the Near East (Meyers, ed. 1997); and Gods, Goddesses, and Images of God in Ancient Israel (Keel and Uehlinger 1998). ... may have begun as early as the tenth century B.C.E., soon after those groups that would become Israel first joined together to form a nation. ... Byzantines under Constantine explored Christian and Jewish holy places and so did Europeans during the Crusades. Napoleon's explorations in ... Those of us raised with a constitutional commitment to the separation of church and state must remember that this modern societal construction ... The problem of defining Canaan is not limited to geographical issues; we must also grapple with the vocabulary of culture. In particular ... The focus was on liturgy, worship, cult and ritual rather than on dogma or belief (Mowinckel 1946; Mowinckel in Sheehan 1981). Biblical ... In From the Stone Age to Christianity: Monotheism and the Historical Process (1940), Albright laid the foundations for much of his later work. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-archaeology-and-the-religions-of-Canaan-and-israel-beth-alpert-nakhai.htm

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Personal Evangelism 101 began in its "embryonic form" in 1976-1977, and to the North Street church in Tampa, Florida where this has been taught on a regular basis to ... . . . . 137 #3 - A Final Challenge -"The Eternal Revenue Service Form No. 0002" 138 HOW DO I FEEL ABOUT PERSONAL EVANGELISM? How many ... Am I generally embarrassed to converse with people about Christ? _____ Do I know enough Scripture to help one become a Christian? ___... When do I plan to begin? ___... Has it ever occurred to me that many will die and go to God unprepared while I'm ... We could double the size of the church between now and January if we would. We are part of our own problem when we could provide the solution ... IN THE NEXT TWO LESSONS, WE SHIFT FROM LOOKING AT THE CROSS AS A LITERAL HISTORICAL EVENT TO LOOKING AT IT AS A WAY OF LIFE, A MODEL OF ... In 1414 A.D., the Roman Catholic church condemned the reading of Wycliffe's translation of the Bible by the common man. Martin Luther ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-brent-hunters-evangelism-101.htm

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Nimrod and the Archaeology of the Tower of Babel by Steven Rudd ... ... B. Notes about the Christian Archaeological Dating (CAD) 34 C. Bible chronology of Archaeological ages and Bible events. 34 D. Historical search ... CHAPTER 15: Nimrod in Christianity: Hell and Easter. 147 A. HATING A GOD WHO JUDGES: Global Flood and Eternal Hell-Fire. 147 B. NIMROD IN EASTER: ... It also defines new standard archaeological ages in keeping with young earth creation. Although it is written for the average Christian, it is invaluable to professional archeologists. The high-quality graphics are intended to be used by church preachers ... Flood to Tower of Babel: 3298-2850 BC a. 3298 BC: Global flood: The population of 8 form the Kingdom of Ararat in the area surrounding Mt. ... Bible Skeptics misused Archaeology to prove the Bible was a myth and not real history, when the problem stemmed from the corrupted reduced ... the sky-god." (Flood Legends: Global Clues of a Common Event, Charles Martin, p29, 2009 AD) Catalogue of global flood stories in ancient literature ... ... https://www.bible.ca/nimrod/welcome.htm

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False Doctrine of Modalism: As taught by the United Pentecostal ... ... We have documented 84 historical quotes at: www.bible.ca\H-trinity.htm proving that Modalists (UPC) deliberately mislead their members into believing a falsified historical ... Scholars have traced Phrygian syncretism from the third century b.c. to the Christian movement called Montanism in the second century a.d. Its ascetic features are mentioned in ... Generally most reference to UPC are from, "The Oneness Of God", David K. Bernard, 1956, ISBN 0-912315-12-1 In the words of the UPC church: In our words: Click to View "Did Jesus ... equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men." The whole point of Trinitarian theory, not comprehended by Modalists and Arians alike, is that Jesus, God the Son, emptied himself of equality with God while on the earth. God's Spirit in the Body of a man! The problem with Jesus praying to the greater Father, while on earth, is only in the mind of Anti-Trinitarians! ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism.htm

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Seventh Day Adventist Church controversy: The Arrest and Trial ... The Arrest and Trial of Israel Dammon The Myths Debunked! Click to View It has been called the SDA historical discovery of the century! In March ... According to a second-hand account written by J.N. Loughborough in The Prophetic Gift in the Gospel Church, the horse pulling their wagon was ... How could both be true? I think one was just as true as the other, and that God never told her any such thing. (An Examination of Mrs. Ellen White's Visions, Miles Grant, Boston: Published by the Advent Christian Publication Society, 1877) Another reason Dammon parted ... for the support of himself family, & against the peace of the State of Maine, and contrary to form of Statute in such cases made and provided. ... Prisoner has been reported as a man who has no means of support--I do not know of his having any. JACOB MARTIN, Esq., Selectman of Atkinson, ... Ellen White to G.I. Butler, 13 December 1886, quoted in Evangelism, p. 375. For a parsimnomious discussion of the shut-door problem, see ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-arrest-trial-israel-dammon.htm

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"Seventh-day Adventism Renounced" by D. M. Canright, 1914 ... God has preserved me to outlive nearly all the Adventist ministers with whom I began laboring. At seventy-five am full of faith in God and the hope of eternal life through our lord Jesus Christ. I love those brethren still and know that most of them are honest Christian people, but in error on many ... Seventh-Day Adventists believe and teach that before the second coming of Christ the United States will form a union of church and state, and, like France and Spain in the seventeenth ... And yet probably no people ever made as many mistakes in the same length of time as Adventists have. Consider how little critical knowledge of exact historical dates ... Infallibility had been attributed to the pope hundreds of years before it became a dogma of the church." Fathers of the Catholic Church, page 333, Exactly, and just so ... We simply and devoutly accept what we can not explain. Eternal punishment presents no harder problem, and hence may be true, all our finite reasonings to the contrary ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/7-Seventh-day-Adventism-RENOUNCED-by-D-M-Canright.htm

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