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The Ignatian Forgeries: They claim to be written by Ignatius ... We feel these scholars are in error and that even the 7 Ignatian letters are forgeries. (We have colour coded the quotes ... than 220 AD, more likely 250 AD. Although they are forgeries, they do represent the views of the author in time of 250 ... nestled warmly between very strong commands to obey the bishop as you would Jesus Christ and the only valid baptism or ... "Catholic Church" is contained within one of the "7 genuine Ignatius letters". Schaff comments: "been found in this letter to the Romans, especially as in this letter we first find the use of the phrase "Catholic Church" in patristic writings." (Philip Schaff: Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. I, Introductory Note To The Epistle Of Ignatius To The Ephesians.) We feel it is proof enough ... the Bishop.) Having said this, the Ignatian letters do represent real history for the dates they were actually written. ... Ignatios of Antioch. In his Letters, St. Ignatios makes it clear that in a given local Church, there is one bishop, a ... ... https://www.bible.ca/history-ignatius-forgeries-250AD.htm

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Apostate church organization: 150-250AD: The rise of the single ... ... There are fifteen books attributed to Ignatius. Eight are surely forgeries and spurious. Seven are considered by some as genuine, although many scholars also believe they are all forgeries. ... Having said this, the Ignatian letters do represent real history for the dates they were actually written. Forgeries yes, but even the forgeries prove that there was no one bishop over the church universal. "It is now the universal opinion of critics, that the first eight of these professedly Ignatian letters are spurious. They bear in themselves indubitable proofs of being the production of a later age than that in which ... Bishop of Antioch." (Philip Schaff, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Introductory Note To The Epistle Of Ignatius To The Ephesians) "The whole story of Ignatius is more legendary than real, and ... Ignatios of Antioch. In his Letters, St. Ignatios makes it clear that in a given local Church, there is one bishop, a council of presbyters, and the deacons: "All of you follow the bishop, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-150-250AD.htm

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Dates: When did the apostolic fathers live? Date Comments Clement (Rome) d110 w81/101 Presbyter at Rome 80-98 Wrote: letter to the Corinthians Polycarp (Symrna) b69/70-d150/155 w130 Taught ... One of the bishops at Hierapolis Wrote: Fragments of Papias Mathetes 130-200 Wrote: The Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus Hermas (Rome) w140/150 ... All scholars reject 1/2 of Ignatius' alleged writings a forgeries and say the 7 genuine letters were written in 110AD. Some scholars reject them all as forgeries that were written about 250AD Click to View More on the Ignatian forgeries. Athanasius Alexandria b293/296-d373 w325 Born in ... Ephraim or Ephraem b306-d373 Born at Nisibis Ambrose Tier, West Germany 340?-397 w375 Bishop of Milan (374) Defended the churches of Milan against Arianism Friend of Monica, mother of Augustine, and finally brought Augustine into the Church Jerome Stridon, Yugoslavia ... John Cassian Southern Gaul b360-d435 w425 A monk and ascetic writer who was first to introduce the rules of Eastern monasticism into the West ... ... https://www.bible.ca/indexHistory-fathers.htm

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George Salmon's Infallibiliy of the church ... He interfered only as commissioned by the emperor; and in this commission he was not alone: three bishops are joined with him in it by name; and actually some twenty took part in the investigation. [409] 2). ... It is the truth to say that Roman claims have principally taken their growth out of two forgeries. I have already described one of them, the pseudo-Clementine literature, which first started the idea that ... In the progress of Roman ambition what had at first been but the advice of a venerated superior in dignity became an order or decree. In fact the manner in which the Roman bishops pushed their claims was, ... In like manner, they who asked for advice from the bishop of Rome were complemented as dutiful subjects who had come to him for commands. [4491 2). The earliest genuine epistle of the kind is one by Siricius, who was pope A.D. 384, in answer to a letter addressed to him by a Spanish bishop, asking for direction on some points of Church discipline for cases occurring in ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-salmon-infallibility.htm

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Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd ... The interchange of terms continued in use to the close of the first century, as is evident from the Epistle of Clement of Rome (about 95), and the Didache, and still lingered towards the close of the second [century]. (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, book 1, chapter 10) d. The use of the word "bishop... The combination, 'the Catholic Church,' appears for the first time in the letter of St. Ignatius to the Smynaeans (purported: AD 110 but actually AD 250). From this time on, the technical and ecclesiastical meaning of the word appears with increasing frequency both in the East and the West. By the ... All this brings the Martyrdom of Polycarp into suspect as a genuine document written in AD 156. e. The story of Polycarp's death reads like a highly edited and polished sermon rather than a ... In my view it is more likely to be true that he was baptized by Silvester in Rome and the decrees addressed to Miltiades that are ascribed to him are Arian forgeries, since they were eager to ... ... https://www.bible.ca/revelation/

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Bulwarks of the Faith Foy E Wallace JR. Refuting Dogmas Catholicism ... ... might be pro-pagated among all the nations of the earth, and with equal care watched that it might be preserved genuine and pure where it had been received. ... Fifth, The Congregation of Propaganda, for spreading Catholicism in non-Catholic coun-tries. They actually have an office of Propaganda belonging to the ... Once cloistered, she cannot leave the limits of the convent without a cause approved by the priest or bishop. An unmarried man with such powers over in-nocent ... It is evident that Peter was not in Rome when Paul wrote the Roman letter. But the church at Rome was in existence at that time, and functioning as an established church of Christ. Furthermore, the first chapter of Romans sets forth Paul's reasons for writing the epistle to the church at Rome, and expressed his deep-felt desire to impart spiritual gifts ... Some pronounce the acts of the Council, which exist in Greek and Latin, downright forgeries (Baronius); others, admitting the acts, declare the letters of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/catholic/Catholic-church-doctrine-Bulwarks-of-the-Faith-Foy-E-Wallace-JR-Refuting-Dogmas-Catholicism-Protestant-Denominationalism-1951AD.htm

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"Seventh-day Adventism Renounced" by D. M. Canright, 1914 ... Then in the Voice of Truth, Feb. 19, 1845, he says: "I have not seen a genuine conversion since." Elder G.I. Butler, in the Review ... And yet, at great expense, they have sent missionaries there to convert the people over to keep another day, when actually they do ... Letters of St. Augustine, letter 55, Chapter XIII. He says the first day of the week was known as the Lord's Day in his times. 4th ... Going back again to the era of Constantine the Great, the first Christian Emperor, we reach Eusebius, the "Father of Church History," A.D. 324. He constantly and familiarly uses the term "Lord's Day" for the first day of ... I quote them as translated in the "Ante-Nicene Christian Library." A.D. 306. Peter, Bishop of Alexandria in Egypt: "But the Lord's ... is, the first day after the Sabbath and the Lord's Day." Epistle 58, section 4. A.D. 200. Tertullian in Africa: "We solemnize ... They perplexed me some, but I got over this by my strong faith in our doctrines and by believing them to be mostly forgeries. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/7-Seventh-day-Adventism-RENOUNCED-by-D-M-Canright.htm

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Sabbatatrians Refuted and Sabbath keepers Exposed: 2011 AD ... without finding homes in those lands so objectionable in very many, many ways" (Ellen G. White, Letter #167, 23 March, 1900). ... Do the Other Nations Have to Keep The Shabbath? First of all, it is clear from what I have written above, that even if the ... But now the question arises, "Do they have to?" The answer to this question actually raises a much more general question: "Do ... out a Sabbatarian-friendly reading of quotes from the early fathers of the church. Unfortunately, most of these passages, when taken in proper context, were strongly anti-Sabbatarian. Johnson cites such works as The Didache and The Epistle of St. ... the so-called "change" of the Sabbath was the result of sinister forces conspiring to destroy the genuine worship of God. ... determined by the Eastern Church, they observed that the bishop of Rome could not even persuade the other bishoprics to ... other such sources is to seek to demonstrate that they are invalid because they are forgeries or contain non-canonical ideas. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-lying-for-god-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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Topical Selection of Early Christian's Beliefs Like the Muslim Hadith, there are forgeries within what Christians commonly call the, "Early Church Fathers". Some of the forgeries are obvious, but for others, we really cannot be sure what is forgery and what is genuine. We host the entire collection of Early Church Fathers Notice this quote from Philip Schaff: More on the Ignatian Forgeries "It is now the universal opinion of critics, that the first eight of these professedly Ignatian letters are spurious. They bear in themselves indubitable proofs of being the production of a later age than that in which Ignatius lived. Neither Eusebius nor Jerome makes the least reference to them; and they are now by common consent set aside as forgeries, which were at various dates, and to serve special purposes, put forth under the name of the celebrated Bishop of Antioch." (Introductory Note To The Epistle Of Ignatius To The Ephesians) "The whole story of Ignatius is more legendary than real, and his writings are subject to grave ... ... https://www.bible.ca/indexHistory.htm

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The Canon of the Bible: Various councils, synods and canons ... who was made sufficient to become a minister of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit (cf. 2 Cor. iii. 6), that is, Paul, who "fully preached ... lines; and, it may be, a second and a third; for not all say that these are genuine but the two of them are not a hundred lines long'. (i i) In addition he ... Therefore, if any church holds that this Epistle is by Paul, let it be commended for this also. For it is not without reason that the men of old time have handed it down as Paul's. (14) But who wrote the Epistle, in truth, God knows. Yet the account that has reached us [is twofold], some saying that Clement, bishop of the Romans, wrote the Epistle, ... I-7. 2. At this point it seems appropriate to summarize the writings of the New Testament which have already been mentioned. In the first place must be put the ... the thought and purport of their contents are completely out of harmony with true orthodoxy and clearly show themselves that they are the forgeries of heretics. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-councils-synods-canons.htm

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Apostate church organization: 250-451AD: The rise of the diocesan ... ... provinces also many things are varied because of the difference of the places and names". (Cyprian, Epistle 1xxiv, 256 AD) D. What Scholars say about what Cyprian said in 250 AD: Cyprian renounced the concept ... [Epist., 1xxiv., in works of Cyprian, 256 AD] (Henry C. Sheldon, History of the Christian Church, Vol 1, p 257) E. 325 AD The first ecumenical council of Nice actually decreed: "Let the ancient customs in Egypt, Libya and Pentapolis prevail, that the Bishop of Alexandria have jurisdiction in all these, since the like is customary for the Bishop of Rome also. ... deposed bishops; and occasionally even delivered sermons to the people; but on the other hand, with genuine tact (though this was in his earlier period, a.d. 314), kept aloof from the Donatist controversy, ... But after we had him for our teacher, we, did not retain him, but transferred him to imperial Rome." (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, book 3, chapter 5) L. 416 AD: Pope Innocent I, in a letter ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-250-451AD.htm

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Encyclopedia of Pentecostal History of Tongues: 150 AD - 1901 ... ... Just to name a few! The fact remains that since the canon of Scripture was completed, no genuine revival or orthodox movement has ever been led by people whose ... During the 19th century, an outburst of glossolalia and some instances of healing occurred, notably in the Scottish preacher Edward Irving's church in London's ... Clement of Rome (died 100?) reminded the Corinthians that "a full outpouring of the Holy Spirit was upon you all." (Clement of Rome, First Epistle to the Corinthians, 2, ... 5.6.1, ANF, I, 531.) Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons, wrote, "[T]hose who are in truth His disciples, receiving grace from Him, do in His name perform (miracles). ... Montanus opposed formalism in the church and boldly intimidated Christians by claiming his followers were more spiritual than those who had only the "dead letter" ... but when the thing hoped for actually comes, then all other faculties are reduced to quiescence , and love alone remains active, finding nothing to succeed itself. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-history.htm

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Debate with Catholic on Sola Scriptura (Riggs Vs Lopez) ... The apostle John, in his introduction to his first epistle, declared that he was bearing witness to those things which they had heard, had seen with their eyes, and had touched ... Let us receive with meekness the Word which is able to save our souls (James 1:21). Let us continue to have genuine love and respect for God's holy truth that we might be saved (2 ... If he would have read what I actually stated in that very paragraph (My Opening Statement, par. 8) I used different scriptures to back that up. For example, Isaiah 59 prophecies of ... since that is the way Peter first interpreted and used the word.' (Robert Sungenis letter, in Scott Butler, Jesus, Peter and the Keys, Queenship Press, 192-193)." Bishop successors thus have authority. 14] Acts 15 shows 1) papal authority, 2) binding authority of non-Apostles, and 3) the power of the church to legislate, all individually fatal to Sola Scriptura: 1) Paul and Barnabas have trouble with those who want to impose circumcision (vv. 1-2). ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-debate-riggs-lopez.htm

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"KJV Only" advocates refuted! ... before perfectly preserving His Word in English, and would you think well of an "Epistle Dedicatory" that praises this king as "most dread Sovereign . . .Your Majesty's ... They understand it to mean DIVINELY AUTHORIZED. I have today received a letter from a very zealous young minister in Atlantic City, definitely declaring his belief in the ... before: and ask what may be the reason, what the necessity of the employment: Hath the Church been deceived, say they, all this while? ... Was their Translation good before? ... He is by no means unaccustomed to reading his Bible in the midst of obscurity. And it is an admirable idea to have a genuine piece of first class Jacobean prose before him, side by side with the Jacobean revision, to show him how these revisers actually wrote when not translating but expressing their ... It is true, it has more than once been published in books about the Bible. J.R. Dore, at the special request of Christopher Wordsworth, Bishop of Lincoln, introduced the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm

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Apostate church organization: 588 - 606 AD: The final dog fight ... It is interesting that the first eastern leader (John IV) to proclaim himself as "universal bishop" and the first western (Boniface III) leader, to do the same, died within 12 months of ... today Click to View Orthodox organization today Click to View True Bible organization today Click to View Find a local congregation of the New Testament church in your own home town. ... A. Our comments and observations: 588 AD marked the beginning of a great power struggle and rivalry between Old Rome (West, Italy) and New Rome (East, Constantinople). It was actually this power struggle that accelerated the Bishop of ... For in answering a letter from that patriarch, he acknowledges with approval the dignity assigned by him to the see of St. Peter, and expresses adroitly a curious view of his correspondent, ... fellow-priest John, attempts to be called universal bishop." (Gregory the Great, book V, Epistle XX. To Mauricius Augustus) "Now eight years ago, in the time of my predecessor of holy ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-588-606AD.htm

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Apostate church organization: 451-588AD: The reign of the 5 Patriarchs ... Yet a few years later, the new bishop of Rome takes, for the first time, the title of "Universal Bishop". This power grab finally split East and West, creating the Roman Catholic church and the Greek Orthodox church. B. 452 AD: What Pope Leo I actually said: (Strong claims he was the successor of the chair of Peter. Of course the whole concept of a permanent successor of Peter is unbiblical and a product of the imagination of the Bishops of Rome.) ... Let not him then who knows he has been set over certain others take it ill that some one has been set over him, but let him himself render the obedience which he demands of them" (Leo I, Letter XIV. To Anastasius, Bishop of Thessalonica, XII. In Case of Difference of ... And to Timothy he says: "Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery." Peter also says in his first epistle: "The presbyters which are among you I exhort, who am your fellow-presbyter and a ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-451-588AD.htm

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Acceptance of the "disputed" NT books: Hebrews, 2 Peter, James ... While some geographic areas had always accepted these books as scripture, others held them at bay, even considering them to be forgeries. The most logical explanation, is that some of these books were originally written ... Hebrews remained controversial in the West until the end of the fourth century. Revelation remained controversial in the East even after it was generally accepted as canonical. The first extant list of New Testament books ... of Paul in the second century, because a second-century exemplar of the Pauline letter collection, P46, containing the letter at issue, actually exists. Are we not forced by the evidence to interpret the discussion in the early church about the authenticity of certain biblical writings as a reaction to an already published book? ... shall not prevail' (Matt. 16:18), has left one acknowledged Epistle; possibly also a second, but this is disputed." (Origen 6.25.8) 3. Origen was therefore aware of 2 Peter, but stated that some dispute its genuineness. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-disputed-books.htm

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"The Sensational speech of Bishop Joseph Georg Strossmayer in ... ... "Now, while we teach that the church is built upon St. Peter, St. Paul (whose authority cannot be doubted) says, in his epistle to the Ephesians 2:20, it is built on the foundation of the ... Is it to be believed, my venerable brethren, that St. Paul, the great apostle of the Gentiles, would have forgotten the first of these offices, the papacy, if the papacy had been of divine ... What do I say? He would have written a long letter on this all-important subject. Then, as he has actually done, when the edifice of the Christian doctrine is erected, would the foundation, the key of the arch, be forgotten? Now, unless you ... more pure in its morals than the Apostolic church, let him say it openly in the face of the universe, for this enclosure is the center from which our words fly from pole to pole. "I go on. ... "I see here before me a member of the assembly, who says, pointing at me with his finger, 'There is a schismatic bishop who has got among us under false colors.' No, no, my venerable ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-joseph-georg-strossmayer.htm

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The Apostolic Fathers referred to false doctrine as bad tradition ... "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." (2 Thessalonians 2:15) Click to View Sola Scriptura ... is particularly applicable to the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches since they have a large number of human traditions that actually change the revealed law of God in scripture! ... We couldn't have said it better ourselves. (Cyprian, Epistle 73:2,3,8,9, of Pope Stephen's false teaching on baptism) Cyprian also condemns Stephen, the bishop of Rome, for his false teaching on baptism and asks pope Stephen where he got his tradition, then threatens he should be withdrawn from for heresy! Here is an example of where the "Fathers" applied the phrase, "Traditions of men", quoting Mk 7:7-9, to the "church traditions" of the ... ... who advocate abstaining from foods". "For the nature of gluttony is threefold: first, there is that which forces us to anticipate the proper hour for a meal, next that which ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-5-false-doctrine.htm

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Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity ... Some Jehovah's Witnesses are so blind and deluded that they actually try to defend Weigall as a careful conservative scholar who attends church faithfully every Sunday, but warn that Christmas and Easter, for example, are pagan origin. ... Jehovah's Witnesses who try to "rescue their beloved watchtower booklet", Should you Believe in the Trinity, by saying we misrepresent what Wiegall is actually saying, are merely continuing the long tradition that the Watchtower has in ... p25) The 27 books of the New Testament Canon is invalid: "Thus, the books of the New Testament may be placed in the following order:-The genuine Pauline Epistles, from A.D. 52 to 64; the first Epistle of St. Peter., from A. D. 59 to 64; Revelation, from A.D. 69 to 93; the Gospel of St. ... The Apostles Creed and Athanasian Creed say that between the Friday night and the Sunday morning Jesus was in Hell or Hades; but this is omitted in the Nicene Creed, and Bishop Pearson IL has shown how frequently it was omitted in ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Weigall.htm

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The Catholic Church did not Give the world The Bible! ... it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5). 11. Why does it teach that a bishop must be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5). 12. Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? (Luke ... Hippo in 390 A.D. proclaimed which books were actually inspired and placed them in one volume, all are indebted to the Catholic Church for the New Testament and can accept it only on the authority of the Catholic Church. There are several things wrong with this. First, it cannot be proven that the church which held the Council of Hippo in 390 A.D. was the same church which is now known as the Roman Catholic Church. ... As a matter of fact, the apostles themselves put their writings into circulation. "And when this letter has been read among you, see that it be read in the church of the Laodiceans also; and that you yourselves read the letter from Laodicea." (Col. 4:16). "I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read to all the holy brethren." (1 Thess. 5:27). The holy ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-origin.htm

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The Apostolic Fathers believed in expedient, optional tradition "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." (2 Thessalonians 2:15) Click to View Sola ... We would love it if Roman Catholic and Orthodox apologists would actually draft a list of doctrines that they believe which are not found anywhere in scripture but only in the inspired oral tradition of the Apostles and prophets of the first century. Of course, they want it both ways. First they trash the Bible saying it is not a complete guide to doctrine and that we need the "oral tradition of the church". Then when we draft a list of doctrines that they teach that are not ... The Quartodecimans (14th Day Christians: Nissan 14 & Easter controversies) calculated the date for Passover according to the Law of Moses. Hippolytus was the bishop of ... of Christ. "We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (The Epistle of Barnabas, 100-130 AD, ch 15). ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-3-expedient.htm

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Sabbathgate 1888 by Kerry Wynne ... Because there was no way to refute this self-evident fact, Bacchiocchi had to demonstrate that Colossians 2:14-17 did not actually classify the Sabbath, as it ... The fathers of the Early Church documented an almost immediate abandonment of Sabbath-keeping by Christians, but both early Adventist leaders and Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi attempt to disparage the credibility of these first Christian writers. In D. M. Canright's day, the early Adventist leaders reacted to the many statements in these early Christian writings that discussed Sabbath abandonment as evidence that the apostasy began very early. The Epistle of Barnabas was dismissed as a forgery, and ... that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]). 2. The Letter of Barnabas [A.D. 74] "We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day ... book is now regarded as down-right dishonest Adventist propaganda, rather than genuine history (Roelf J. Poehler, unpublished paper on the shut-door era. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbathgate-1888ad-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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Personal Evangelism 101 ... Making the Approach, the Set-up, and Suggestions for the Members, Local Preacher and Congregation 119 Appendix #1: A Sample "Written Approach" Letter 125 Appendix #2: ... Illustration -"Too Much Time in the Huddle" (See appendix 3) The greatest need today is for the church to get back to its mission and "seek and save the lost" (Luke 19:10)! God could have done anything he wanted with His Son but He made Him a soul-winner! The first twelve men Christ chose were soul winners except Judas -- and he ... We need personal contact. How can we preserve anything sitting on a shelf? What we all need is more genuine concern for the lost. Paul's heart had "great grief and ... After one stirring meeting entitled 'The Necessity Of Fishing,' two young men left the meeting and actually went fishing and one of them actually caught two fish! He ... section formally split with the western, following the Bishop in Constantinople as its head, becoming what is known today as the Greek Orthodox Catholic church. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-brent-hunters-evangelism-101.htm

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Official creed of the Orthodox church ... JUSTIFICATION is a word used in the Scriptures to mean that in Christ we are forgiven and actually made righteous in our living. Justification is not a once-for-all, ... It also includes some of the history of the early Church and especially sets forth the Church's apostolic doctrine. Though these writings were read in the Churches from the time they first appeared, the earliest listings of all the New Testament books exactly as we know them today, is found in the 33rd Canon of a local council held at Carthage in 318, and in a fragment of St. Athanasius of Alexandria's Festal Letter in 367. Both sources list all of the books of the New ... Paul condemns male prostitutes and deviant sex practitioners (I Corinthians 6:9-11). In the first chapter of his epistle to the Romans (Romans 1:24-32), he also judges it as ... Page 58 HOLY ORDERS Q. What is the Sacrament of Holy Orders? A. A Holy ceremony, at which the Bishop lays his hands upon the head of the one who is being ordained, and calls ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-Orthodox.htm

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Encyclopedia of Pentecostal ministries and preachers ... All believers are encouraged to participate in the Holy Communion which is held the first Sunday of each month. Lea's, Larry Larry Lea's most embarrassing moment may ... His appeal letters now include "disaster-grams" featuring simulated certified mail stickers. A recent letter offers recipients "one of my neckties that I have worn ... music and arts to promote the gospel and to bring thousands of unsaved into the church. It also is very specific about how the movement would spread geographically. ... Dir of ICBM; Billy Daugerty; Vice Chairman of ICBM; Carlton Pearson; Member-at-Large of ICBM; Bishop, megachurch pastor, vacillates bet. WOF & Prophetic Movements ... Among most Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians, Azusa is revered as a genuine move of the God in restoring the Church to true power and authority. However, it is ... He actually launched a "raise the dead" campaign in the mid-sixties. Thankfully it died when his disciples refused to bury their departed, and their departed refused ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/tongues-encyclopedia-pentecostal-preachers.htm

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Early Christians always met on the First day (Sunday) and never ... Augustine actually stated that Christians are bound to keep 9 of the ten Commandments [because the New Testament repeats and re-introduces them in a different form] ... Sabbatarians owe a debt of gratitude to these Sabbath pioneers whose work later influenced the origin of the Seventh-day Baptist church. The latter (Joseph Bates) has been instrumental in helping the early Adventists and other Christians to rediscover the Sabbath. Historically, it was in 1844 the first Seventh-day Adventists (known ... rose again from the dead" (The Epistle of Barnabas, 100 AD 15:6-8). 100 AD BARNABAS: Moreover God says to the Jews, 'Your new moons and Sabbaths 1 cannot endure.' ... Now this custom took its rise from apostolic times, as the blessed Irenaeus, the martyr and bishop of Lyons, declares in his treatise On Easter, in which he makes ... It is possible to contend that it is not the Law which was written on those two tables that the apostle [Paul] describes as 'the letter that kills' [2 Cor. 3:6], but ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday.htm

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242 Dates for the End of the world!!! Date Setters! ... R.B.C. Huygens, "Un témoin" [n.11], p.231, lines 94-106; letter from the bishop of Auxerre to the bishop of Verdun (commentary by Huygens, p.236f). Dated variously early ... at the coincidence of the Annunciation and the Crucifixion agaist which Abbo writes a letter. 979: Igneae acies visae sunt in caelo per totam noctem 5 Kalendas Novembris. ... First wave of peace councils in the South (see below). 990s: mention of apocalyptic beliefs leading to violent seizure of church property at St. Hilaire. 990s-1010s: Preaching of Aelfric and Wulfistan, filled with images of Last Judgment, explicity linked at points to the year 1000 and the ... The revisit of Haley's comet was, for many, an indication of the Lord's second coming. The earth actually passed through the gaseous tail of the comet. One enterprising man ... Whether the group is a cold-blooded hoax that milks its victims of their money and then disposes of them or a more "genuine" suicide cult remains unclear. The Order was ... ... https://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

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Zedekiah, Matteniah King of Judah 597-587 BC The Chronological ... ... Nebuchadnezzar is a major Bible character who was God's agent to destroy Judah for Idolatry. b. Nebuchadnezzar is featured in the Book of Daniel as the first of four prophesied kingdoms (Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome) and God would set up his eternal kingdom (the church) during the Roman ... of Nisan, year 33 of Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon" There are actually over 200 of these unprovenanced tablets that are believed to have been purchased on the private antiquities market from Iraq after 1970 AD, but only 103 were featured at the museum in Israel. These tables, though unprovenanced are believed to be genuine by all experts. ... For Rev the Christians "left everything behind" and followed the messengers from the 7 churches of Asia who brought the letter, back to their 7 home churches to start a new life ... troops in 593 BC to Psammetichus II (Psamtik II), king of Egypt 595-589 BC. d. "The Epistle claims to be a contemporary record, written with the personal knowledge of an ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-Zedekiah-Matteniah-last-king-of-judah-seal-bulla-cave-597-587bc

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One verse refution of Transubstantiation ... The Holy Spirit would not use such a figure of speech as "synecdoche" (referring to a part for the whole) if such a literal transubstantiation was actually taking place. To use a symbol when such a ... Neither is it possible to see that his blood by which we are redeemed and made alive is in the cup when there is absent from the cup the wine by which the blood of Christ is shown forth. (Epistle 62 [631 ... Ignatius' organizational concern had to do with the unity of the church; the "one bishop" with the presbytery and deacons, like the one eucharist, was a center of loyalty, and this oneness may be stressed more in theory and polemic than was practiced in reality (see ch. XIV). Ignatius also appears to give the first statement about the supernatural benefits to be found in the ... Although there is no change of the elements, they are made capable of something else. A heavenly reality is added to the earthly reality. The genuine writings of Irenaeus do not explain what this ... ... https://www.bible.ca/ntx-communion-transubstantiation.htm

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What Early Christians believed about PROPHETS OUTSIDE THE APOSTOLIC ... What benefit would be derived from excommunicating those who had a genuine supernatural gifting from the Spirit of Grace? It is evident from the writings of these ... All things, therefore, are dispensed from heaven for good, that by the Church may be made known the manifold wisdom of God, according to the eternal foreknowledge, ... And when multitudes had too readily believed this, he went on to say that he was actually Christ; and he succeeded so well even in this delusion that a certain bishop named Rufus worshipped him as being the Lord. For so doing, we have seen this bishop at a later date deprived of his office. Many of the brethren have also ... The saint being dazzled by his first appearance, both preserved a long and deep silence. This was first broken by the devil, who said: Acknowledge, Martin, who it is ... Yet, though he should have been humble on this account, he dared to boast as a martyr, and in imitation of the apostle, he wrote a certain catholic epistle, to ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-prophets.htm

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The false doctrine of Roman Catholic apostolic succession! ... However, he said "This, beloved, is now the second epistle that I am writing to you wherein I stir up your pure mind to remembrance, that you may be mindful of what I formerly preached of the ... Besides this he must have a good reputation with those who are outside, that he may not fall into disgrace and into a snare of the devil." (1 Tim. 3:1-7). A study of New Testament bishops, first ... Again, the Catholic Church has corrupted this form of governing as ordained by God. Instead of having several bishops (or elders) overseeing one church, they have one bishop overseeing several churches. The Council ... of what has taken place as effect of other causes, but a real efficacious judicial sentence actually freeing the sinner from guilt." (Legislation on the Sacraments, p. 190). "Unlike the ... "When and why did Holy Mother Church dispense with public penance? "The mitigation of public penance is first indicated in a letter of Pope St. Innocent in the year 405. A similar trend of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-apostolic-succession.htm

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Life of Mrs. E.G. White - Her Claims Refuted, by D.M. Canright ... ... "We discard nothing that the visions have ever taught from beginning to end, from first to last" (The Visions of Mrs. E.G. White," p. 40). Here is another in the ... God was speaking through clay. You might say this communication was only a letter. Yes, it was a letter, but prompted by the Spirit of God, to bring before your minds ... That is all he says about it. His father had been a Baptist deacon, then a member of the Christian church. Neither his parents, his church, nor his associates were accustomed to such extreme religious exercises as Ellen Harmon's had been. But was not his conversion as genuine as hers? She never questioned it. From 1840 to 1844, from ... Thus the Advent Review, March 2, 1916, says: "Satan would have us believe that we can actually figure out the proximity of the Lord's return; that by casting up ... Yet these very churches, since that time, have produced a Spurgeon, a Livingstone, a Bishop Simpson, a Moody, and at least one-third of all the devout members of the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/7-Life-of-White-her-claims-refuted-canright.htm

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Early Christian faith on Trinity, deity of Christ, personality ... ... is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26) 200 AD ... X; The Epistle of Ignatius to the Romans (Introduction); The Epistle of Ignatius to the Philadelphians, Chap. IV; VI; The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans, Chap. ... apart and destroy the Monarchy, the most sacred proclamation of the Church of God, making of it, as it were, three powers, distinct substances, and three godheads. ... He, in his blasphemy, says that the Son is the Father and vice versa" (Letters of Dionysius to Bishop Dionysius of Alexandria 1:1). 262 AD Dionysius "Therefore, the ... 'The Father and I are one,' and `I am in the Father, and the Father in me'" (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria, 3). 262 AD Gregory the Wonder-worker 262 AD Gregory ... 262 AD Gregory the Wonderworker "We therefore acknowledge one true God, the one First Cause, and one Son, very God of very God, possessing of nature the Father's ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-trinity.htm

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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD ... And to the same effect is that expression of Pliny in his letter to Trajan : "I asked them whether they were Christians ; if they confessed it, I asked them a second and a third time, ... of these Apostles were living when the Jewish war commenced. St. Paul, too, in his Epistle to the Romans, informs them that 'their faith was spoken of throughout the world ;' and in ... "It appears," says Bishop Newton, "from the writers of the history of the church, that before the destruction of Jerusalem the Gospel was not only preached in the Lesser Asia, and Greece, and Italy, the great theatres of action then in the ... They slaughtered the common people as unfeelingly as if they had been a herd of the vilest beasts. The nobles they first imprisoned, then scourged, and when they could not by these means ... In the depth or this horrible extremity, a Jewess of noble family urged by the intolerable cravings of hunger, slew her infant child, and prepared it for a meal ; and had actually eaten ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/pre-destruction70AD-george-holford-1805AD.htm

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What Early Christians believed about BAPTISM ... For if, as some suppose, one could receive anything abroad out of the Church according to his faith, certainly he has received what he believed; but if he believes ... disposed to acquiesce in my clinging vices, and because I despaired of better things, I used to indulge my sins as if they were actually a part of me, inherent in me. ... has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism--which is quite in accordance with nature, for vipers and ... of water, he shall not have life'" (Baptism 12:1). 215 AD Hippolytus "And the bishop shall lay his hand upon them [the newly baptized], invoking and saying: 'O Lord ... Let your baptism be your armor; your faith, your helmet; your love, your spear; your patient endurance, your panoply" (Letter to Polycarp 6). 253 AD Cyprian: ... in the unity of the Lord according to the sacrament of the one ark." (Cyprian, Epistle 73:11) 253 AD Cyprian of Carthage "[When] they receive also the baptism of the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-baptism.htm

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Assassination of Gedaliah July-Sept 587 BC: Bulla The Exhibit: On-line Museum of Bulla and seals Security: How bullae are made to seal papyrus Forgeries: Known fake bullae and seals Archaeologists are digging up bible ... Such a young king was unacceptable to Nebuchadnezzar so he ordered him to surrender. Jehoiachin is the only king during the life of Jeremiah who actually did what the prophet ... This brought much money and skilled labour to the Ammonite kingdom. 18 years later, when the Babylonians returned home they appointed Gedaliah as the first governor of Judea with essentially same power and authority as the previous kings of Judah. Ishmael, a genuine royal heir to the ... Jeremiah offered messianic hope of restoration of Judah and Israel in Christ, in the church: a. "Then I will give you shepherds [apostles, church elders] after My own heart, who ... the wheat which is in the possession of Hanun (Bar Kokhba's Letters, The Wooden Letter) They were sadly mistaken in rejecting Jesus Christ as their true Messiah whom they ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/bulla/bible-archeology-jeremiah-clay-bullae-seal-inscription-property-of-belonging-to-Gedaliah-who-is-over-the-house-Lachish-2-Kings-25-22-587bc.htm

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In Darkest England and the Way Out, William Booth 1890 AD ... For thousands upon thousands of these poor wretches are, as Bishop South truly said, "not so much born into this world as damned into it." The bastard of a harlot, born in a ... The records of our Rescue Homes abound with life-stories, some of which we have been able to verify to the letter --which prove only too conclusively the existence of numbers of ... The average jail population in England and Wales, excluding the convict establishments, was, in 1889, 15,119 but the total number actually sentenced and imprisoned in local prisons was 153,000, of whom 25,000 only came on first term sentences; 76,300 of them had been ... But it is recruited constantly from the outside. In many cases this is due to sheer starvation. Fathers of the Church have laid down the law that a man who is in peril of death from ... There is a joviality and a genuine good feeling at some of these meetings which is refreshing to the soul. There are all sorts and conditions of men; casuals, gaol birds, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/in-darkest-england-and-the-way-out-william-booth-1890ad.htm

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Kadesh-Barnea by Henry Clay Trumbull, 1884 AD ... It is chosen by Saint Paul 2 as the likeness of the corres ponding failures of the first efforts of the primitive Christian church; the one type of the Jewish history ... He was turned back from its southern borders, for a period of needed waiting and preparing in the Land of Training. 8 After actually having a foothold in the Promised ... On the contrary, we are distinctly informed that not only on Abra ham s first arrival at Sichem, and after his return from Egypt, the Canaanite and the Perizzite ... See Tristram s Bible Places, p. 1 /. 8 See Robinson s Bib. Itcs., L, 189; II., 43/.; Rowlands letter in Williams s Holy City, p. 488 ; Van de Velde s Syrien u. ... See, also, Kurtz s Hist, of Old Cov., III., 191 /. *1 Sam. 25: 1, 2. Bishop Harold Browne, in The Speaker s Commentary, thinks that Paran should here read Maon ; but ... He says: " The arm of sea which springs from the great Indian Ocean, and bears the name of Red Sea or Arabian Gulf, is a genuine tropical 1 Reference is here made to ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-henry-clay-trumbull-1884ad.htm

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The Samaritans: 720 BC The pagan half-Jews of the Old Testament ... ... Pictured is the author sitting in the pagan Canaanite altar in the sanctuary on the summit of Tel Balata. b. It is not actually a "man chair" but an altar for ... HIS OWN ENEMY: SAMARITAN VS. JEW WAR IS STARTED: Sincere Samaritans made a genuine offer to rebuilt the Jerusalem Temple but are rejected a. "Now when the enemies ... The enemies, the Samaritans, Rehum the commander and Shimshai the scribe, write a letter to Artaxerxes to stop rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. b. The king replies ... While Ezra was bilingual, the Jewish population could not speak, read or write Hebrew. Instead they spoke Aramaic from the time of the captivity down to the first ... ii. "Now Darius, when the Samaritans had written to him, and in their epistle had accused the Jews how they fortified the city, and built the temple more ... In the parable of the Tares, the Devil is the counterfeiter of religion. Today many churches are counterfeits of the true church you read about in the Bible. By 500 ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-samaritans.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Philippians 2:5-8 ... He became a man, a true human being. "Likeness" suggests similarity but difference. Though His humanity was genuine, He was different from all other humans in that He ... historical Christ who enjoyed according to this hymnic confession of the early Church also a divine pre-existent quality and an exalted celestial reward. of divine ... Vid. Bishop Bull's Def. cap. 2 sect. 4 et alibi, and Whitby in loc. (2.) His human nature: He was made in the likeness of men, and found in fashion as a man. He was ... The first is "being in very nature God," which is compared to the second, "equality with God." The former is normally translated by the English word "form," which is ... Physical eyes cannot see spiritual realities, only spiritual eyes can. Given the context, it would not be uncommon to use the term to state that he actually "appeared ... but the expression 'leaves room for the thought that the human likeness is not the whole story' (F. W. Beare, The Epistle to the Philippians [A. and C. Black, 1959]). ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians2-6.htm

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Acapella Responsive Singing, No Instruments in first century ... Introduction: 1. Synagogue worship at the time of Jesus' birth was acapella, antiphonal, responsive with no instruments. 2. Instrumental music was banned in all synagogues in the first century before 70 AD and the early church continued this ban to the present time. 3. Congregational singing is explicitly authorized while instruments are not: a. Col 3:16 and Eph 5:19 were letters to be read while in the assembly: "When this letter is read among you, have it also read ***in the church*** ... In both cases spiritual worship is regarded as more exalted than any other sensuous ceremonial. Philo, in particular, emphasized the value of spiritual hymns and praises even when they are not actually pronounced by 'tongue or mouth', prayers which only ... No; the whole spirit, soul, and genius of the Christian religion are against this; and those who know the Church of God best, and what constitutes its genuine spiritual state, know that these things have been introduced as a substitute for the life and ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Acapella-responsive-singing-non-instrumental-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-worship-prototype-ancient-Synagogue-ritual-liturgy-worship.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 200 AD: Hippolytus They do not, however, attend to this (fact), that the legal enactment was made for Jews, who in times to come should kill the real Passover. And this (paschal sacrifice, in its efficacy,) has spread unto the Gentiles, and is discerned by faith, and not now observed in letter (merely). They attend to this one commandment, ... Now the "Easter controversy" is an example of how man-made doctrine began to infiltrate the church which no one in the first century practiced. Yearly Easter celebrations are found neither in scripture or the apostolic fathers. What we do find in the apostolic fathers, was that every Sunday was a celebration of the resurrection of Christ. "We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (The Epistle of Barnabas, 100-130 AD, ch 15). So here we have the bishop of Rome, going against both scripture and tradition of the early church. The issue has never been settled because Easter is a man-made holy day. Had scripture ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-hippolytus.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 250 AD: Cyprian ... On which account, let us forsake the error and follow the truth" (Cyprian, Epistle 73:2,3,8,9, of Pope Stephen's false teaching on baptism) Click to View Cyprian demands that the bishop of Rome follows scripture when it contradicts church tradition. Cyprian condemns Pope Stephen, for his false teaching on baptism and asks Stephen where he got his tradition, then threatens he should be withdrawn from for heresy! The Catholic church ... We couldn't have said it better ourselves! "How carefully has Stephen fulfilled these salutary commands and warnings of the apostle, keeping in the first place lowliness of mind and meekness! For what is more lowly or meek than to have disagreed with so many bishops throughout the ... Such a statement directed at the Pope would make any Roman Catholic fall off his chair. The Eastern Greek Orthodox church, on the other hand, are actually in compete agreement! The record of history clearly proves that Rome's claim to being the Universal Bishop who appoints all ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-cyprian.htm

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Catholicism's SHOCKING attitude toward the Bible! ... Christ didn't actually take a pen in His hand and write the New Testament; nevertheless, it is His production. The Old Testament declares that God built the temple (1 Kings 8:16,20), but God did not actually come down and build it Himself. He built it through the agency of others. ... Thus, the Scriptures were written to all the faithful--to all who call upon the name of the Lord in every place. The apostles themselves put their writings into circulation. "And when this letter has been read among you, see that it be read in the church of the Laodicians also; and that you yourselves read the letter from Laodicea." (Col. 4:16). "I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read to all the holy ... They looked ahead to a time when the miraculous powers of the Holy Spirit would be done away. There are three chapters on the subject of spiritual gifts in the book of First Corinthians--12, 13, and 14. These chapters not only describe the kinds of gifts but also reveal that the gifts ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-attitude-towards.htm

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Encyclopædia Britannica Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quotes & False Dilemmas: Secular Extensive quoting that misleads the reader to a conclusion opposite to what Britannica actually says. Encyclopædia Britannica Click to View Encyclopædia Britannica, quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower ... Not understanding the theological points at issue Constantine first sent a letter to the two parties rebuking them for quarreling about minute distinctions, as he believed them to be, about the nature of Christ (Encyclopædia Britannica, 1971, Constantine, Vol. 6, p. 386) Ossius' influence on Constantine Constantine was already aware of the schism and on the suggestion of his ecclesiastical adviser, Ossius, bishop of Cordoba (Encyclopædia Britannica, 1971, Constantine, Vol. 6, p. 386) Constantine was convinced, doubtless by Ossius, that dissension in his church was deeply displeasing to God. (Encyclopædia Britannica, 1971, Constantine, Vol. 6, p. 386) The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Britannica.htm

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Tradition wars: The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches make ... ... They differ on the frequency of communion, the fasting requirements and the actual method of partaking. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine that says the bread and grape juice of the Lord's supper actually molecularly change to become the flesh and ... The Roman church believed the Holy Spirit proceeded from BOTH the Father and the Son. Orthodox keeps the original Nicene Creed, accepted by the Universal Church, East and West, during the first millennium without the addition of "And the Son" or the "Filioque." It accepts, on faith, ... be cast the vote of truth." (Basil, Letter 189, 3) B. Our comments on what Basil wrote in 370 AD: What a "flagship passage"! Every Roman Catholic and Orthodox priest should be required to hand scribe this text by Basil on parchment, rolled up and placed in a little clear bottle and hung around their neck! For the Roman Catholics who refuse to believe that such words could fall from the lips of a Catholic bishop, the Pope describes Basil as, "one of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-vs-orthodox.htm

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Four positions on the day of Christian worship ... Archdiocese of Baltimore replying for the Cardinal in a letter dated February 10, 1920) "The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law," (Kansas City Catholic, February 9, 1893) In reality, what the Catholic church believes is that apostle Peter was the first pope (the first pope was in 606 AD not Peter) and that the very earliest Christians, in apostolic times "transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday", by the will of God. Officially Catholics have always taught that the universal practice of the earliest Christians was to meet every Sunday. Seventh-day Adventists actually misrepresent the official teaching of the Catholic church. ... 63, 65) We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of the one holy Catholic Church." (Bishop Seymour, Why We Keep Sunday.) "The Bible commandment says on the seventh-day thou shalt rest. That is Saturday. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-4-positions.htm

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Sabbath and Sunday in Early Christianity: Dr. David W. T. Brattston ... Originating in Asia Minor or Egypt in the middle of the second century, this Letter purports to be the revelation of Christ to the apostles. Although we may doubt that this Letter is inspired or scripture or even apostolic, it does witness to ... Tertullian had been a prominent lawyer in the City of Rome before converting and being ordained in Tunisia, where he became the founder of Latin Christian literature. Compiled in Syria, The Didascalia is a long comprehensive manual for church practice from the first ... Not according to Barnabas 15, the Acts of Peter, or Tertullian's On Idolatry 14, although Tertullian is not clear in his other treatises. It certainly was not for Ignatius, bishop of Antioch in Syria, who was martyred around AD 107. His Letter ... One of the marks of Christians, said Origen (as mentioned above), was that they observe the Sabbath, not in the sense of resting from everyday life, but resting from sin (Homilies on Joshua 2.1). Sabbath-keeping Forbidden Some authors actually ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday-sabbath-and-sunday-in-early-christianity-before-400AD-DavidW.T.Brattston.htm

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True Sola Scriptura leads to perfect unity! Oral traditions and ... Obviously then, using tradition is not the answer. Further, very few churches in the world actually use sola Scriptura! Sola Scriptura proven from the Bible! Click to View Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments ... Look at all of these Protestant denominations, 30,000 of them the last time I checked. How do you know you're in the correct church?" (Staples/Latar debate on sola Scriptura, Apolonio Latar, Catholic defender, 2002) "First, it results in hermeneutical anarchy. The fact that hundreds of denominations, each professing ... This failure is highlighted by the fact that the Orthodox church rejected the Roman church's claim for world domination. The East (Orthodox) basically told the bishop of Rome, "It has never been this way, why should we start ... We note that none of the "Protestant" groups listed are genuine sola Scriptura, but like Traditionalists, rely upon human creeds. We classify all the Protestants as "pseudo sola Scriptura" since although they claim to operate ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-anti-refuted-division.htm

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