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| 1: | Kelly, J.N.D.: Early Christian Doctrines
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian JW's Quote Kelly in such a way as to leave the impression that he is not a trinitarian or one with no Bible basis. Kelly, J.N.D.: Early Christian Doctrines Kelly is quoted in, Watchtower Magazine, Aug. 1, 1984, p 23 by Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source What ... "What the Apologists had to say about the Holy Spirit was much more meagre" (Watchtower, Aug. 1, 1984, pg 23, quoting, J.N.D. Kelly) "What the Apologists had to say about the Holy Spirit was much more meagre, scarcely deserving the name of scientific theology. This is understandable, for the problem which principally exercised them was the relation of Christ to the Godhead. Nevertheless, being loyal ... His essential function in their eyes would seem to have been the inspiration of the prophets. Developing this, Justin interprets Is. 11, 2 ('The Spirit of God shall rest upon him') as indicating that with ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Kelly.htm | 97%  Size: 11K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 2: | Catholic Encyclopedia's and Dictionaries Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote & False Dilemma: Trinitarian Too many to number here. See below. Catholic ... It is a large section, but that is because the Jw's quote from 19 different places from three main sources listed ... The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912 What the Watchtower quoted: What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "The Trinity is the term employed to signify the of the Christian religion . . . Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: 'the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not ... Christian religion-the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons the Father the Son, and the ... B. Old Testament.-The early Fathers were persuaded that indications of the doctrine of the Trinity must exist in the ... Seven years later, in a study (Early Christian Creeds 25-29) destined to become equally well-known, J. N. D. Kelly, whose companion volume on the development of Christian doctrines ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Catholic.htm | 91% Size: 126K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 3: | SUMMARY: PROOF that TRINITY is NOT of PAGAN origin! ... Read this quote from the Watchtower magazine: "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings published by the Watchtower Society should be the thing that satisfies, that ... First the Watchtower leaves the reader with the false impression that Lohse believes that trinity originated with the pagans and has no scriptural basis. Second, the Watchtower, through a series of deceptive quotes, irresponsibly portrays Constantine as a faithless sun-god pagan idol worshipper with no understanding of Christianity who single-handedly introduces trinity to Christianity from the pagans and is almost the author of the Nicene creed. Kelly, J.N.D. in "Early Christian Doctrines" JW's Quote Kelly in such a way as to leave the impression that he is not a trinitarian or one with no Bible ... In a commentary on the rig veda it is said: "there are three deities, but there is only one godhead, the great soul." A text from one of the Hindu bibles, (the Puranas) will evince the antiquity and ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-not-pagan-reasons.htm | 89% Size: 90K Depth: 4 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 4: | Development from the trinity as taught in the Bible and the trinity ... ... But the Biblical trinity (uncreated deity of Christ and personality of the Holy Spirit) are taught in the scripture. The Watchtower will quote Trinitarian sources who will say ... It was prompted chiefly by belief in the divinity of Christ and later in the divinity of the Holy Spirit, but even earlier by the consistent worship of God in a ... true God from true God, and consubstantial with the Father. (The Triune God, Edmund J. Fortman, p 66-70) Economic and essential trinity:- (a) The transition ... At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian in the a strictly ontological reference. It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in apostolic the NT and other early Christian writings. Nor was it so even in the age of the Christian apologists. And even ... construct their more sophisticated accounts of the Christian doctrine of the Godhead." (J. N. D. Kelly, Early Christian Doctrines, p 90.) First, it is important to note that the doctrine of the Trinity does ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-development.htm | 87% Size: 17K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 5: | Commentary on what the early Christians believed about the Trinity ... This is understandable, for the problem which principally exercised them was the relation of Christ to the Godhead. Nevertheless, being loyal churchmen, they made it their business to proclaim the Church's faith, the pattern of which was of course triadic. [ie. trinitarian] (Early Christian Doctrines, J.N.D. Kelly, p. 101) "Yet, as compared with their thought about the Logos, the Apologists appear to have been extremely vague as to the exact status and role of the Spirit. His essential function in their eyes would seem to have been the inspiration of the prophets. Developing this, Justin interprets Is. 11, 2 ('The Spirit of God shall rest upon him') as indicating that with the coming of Christ prophecy would cease ... Ignatius "We have seen that the Watchtower has been dishonest in dealing with the issue of authenticity with regards to Ignatius' writings. We have seen that the author of this article *never* cites the actual writings of Ignatius, but relies solely on materials that ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-apostolic-fathers.htm | 82% Size: 25K Depth: 4 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 6: | The Decepto-Meter goes crazy when you bring it near the Watchtower ... ... As Hodder says "Although Scripture does not give us a formulated doctrine of the Trinity, it contains all the elements out of which theology has constructed the doctrine." (i.e. the deity of Christ and personality of the Holy Spirit) Click to View Hodder and Stoughton Illustrated Bible Dictionary Satanic Quote Trinitarian JW's Quote Kelly in such a way as to leave the impression that he is not a trinitarian or one with no Bible basis. Kelly, J.N.D. Early Christian Doctrines Satanic Quote Trinitarian JW's Quote Kittel in such a way as to leave the impression that he is not a trinitarian or one with no Bible basis. Click to View Kittel, Gerhard Theological Dictionary of the New Testament Satanic Quote Trinitarian JW's quote Kung, and project the false view that they would have an easier time converting Muslims to Watchtower view of God, (where they call Jesus Lord, a God, and Messiah) than Trinitarians to the Triune God. They failed to tell you this that Kung said: "the decisive ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decepto-meter.htm | 82% Size: 43K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 7: | Brown, Colin: New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology Brown, Colin: New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, Jw's booklet. The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology ... One may perhaps say that there is indeed no developed doctrine of the Trinity in the NT, but that the writers, particularly in the later strata, thought in trinitarian forms." (New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Colin Brown, 1932, Lord, vol 2, p 516) What they deceptively left out of the quote: What Anti-trinitarians quote: ... J. N. D. Kelly, Early Christian Doctrines, 1968, 113, 233-7). But the NT does contain the fixed, three-part formula of 2 Cor. 13:13 (EVV 14) in which God, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit are mentioned together (cf. I Cor. 12:4 ff.). The Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit occurs only in the baptismal formula in Matt. 28:19. The later addition, I Jn. 5:8 (in Lat. texts from the 6th cent.), contains the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Brown.htm | 81% Size: 14K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 8: | Part1: Pagan Section: Trinity Watchtower BOOKLET: Should You ... Click link for more. Various Trinitarian concepts exist. But generally the Trinity teaching is that in the Godhead there are three ... The doctrine says that the three are coequal, almighty, and uncreated, having existed eternally in the Godhead. Jesus is coequal with ... We reject all human creeds and abide ONLY in the concept of trinity in the Bible where Jesus is uncreated divine God (like the Father) and the Holy Spirit is a person. ... This source trashes all of Christianity, not just trinity and is a satanic quote! It is the Watchtower "Star Witness" to prove trinity is pagan used ... The Roman Catholic Church states: "The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion . . . ... trinity, but so what? There is a clear development of doctrines that all Bible students recognize from the Old to the New Testaments. ... Taught by Early Christians? DID the early Christians teach the Trinity? Note the following comments by historians and theologians: ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-JW-SYBTT-Watchtower-BOOKLET-Should-You-Believe-the-Trinity-EXPOSED-REFUTED-pagan-section.htm | 80% Size: 110K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 9: | Trinity Attackers refuted! (Watchtower's: Should You Believe ... Click link for more. Various Trinitarian concepts exist. But generally the Trinity teaching is that in the Godhead there are three ... The doctrine says that the three are coequal, almighty, and uncreated, having existed eternally in the Godhead. Jesus is coequal with ... We reject all human creeds and abide ONLY in the concept of trinity in the Bible where Jesus is uncreated divine God (like the Father) and the Holy Spirit is a person. ... This source trashes all of Christianity, not just trinity and is a satanic quote! It is the Watchtower "Star Witness" to prove trinity is pagan used ... The Roman Catholic Church states: "The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion . . . ... trinity, but so what? There is a clear development of doctrines that all Bible students recognize from the Old to the New Testaments. ... Taught by Early Christians? DID the early Christians teach the Trinity? Note the following comments by historians and theologians: ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-frames-start-page-SYBTT.htm | 80% Size: 727 bytes Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 10: | Scholars on the Personality of the Holy Spirit But in utter hypocrisy they then add another definition found in the same dictionary when they refer to God the Father's spirit, namely: intelligent conscious life and being. (God is a Spirit = God is a breath, doesn't work) Jw's are hot air not God! The Watchtower booklet, "Should you believe in the trinity?", said of Mt 28:19: "Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, ... At most points, however, context approves and the analogy of the NT strongly suggests that the ruah YHWH is the Holy Spirit, "in the fullest Christian sense" (Theological Workbook of the Old Testament, R. Laird Harris, Vol 2, page 836-7) The apostolic conception of the ... This order, however, was not intended to suggest degrees of subordination within the Godhead; it belonged to the Triad as manifested in creation and revelation." (Early Christian Doctrines, J.N.D. Kelly, p 102) The apostolic conception of the Holy Ghost and of His relation to the Father and the Son is ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-quotes-personality-of-holy-spirit.htm | 80% Size: 24K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 11: | Encyclopedia of Pentecostal History of Tongues: 150 AD - 1901 ... Yet both claim the Holy Spirit is leading both their lives! Is the Holy Spirit revealing all these contradictory doctrines? Is God the author of all this doctrinal confusion? Click to View Summary chart of ... Church," Bibliotheca Sacra 122, April-June 1965, 134.) "Glossolalia In Christian Antiquity And The Early Middle Ages: It has been noted that beyond the New Testament our earliest ... Pentecostals selectively quote history to give the impression that the people of God have always spoken in tongues. But history reveals that the vast ... When he wrote his defense of orthodoxy with respect to the Godhead and Christology against Marcion (after c. 207), Tertullian had himself become a ... The Works of John and Charles Wesley: A Bibliography (London: C. H. Kelly, 1869), p. 123.) Wesley denied this while leaving space for a continuing ... contain the opinion of any man." (Riches, 1936, p. 384, 385) 1937 "The Watchtower is issued twice each month and brings to its readers the current report ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-history.htm | 79% Size: 295K Depth: 5 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 12: | Trinity proof texts: John 1:1 ... Many of the supporting authorities in the footnotes of the early versions of the NWT have been deleted as proof of this. Several of these Greek authorities have written formal repudiations of how the Watchtower deceptively misquotes ... "No justification whatsoever for translating THEOS EN HO LOGOS as 'the Word was a god.' There is no syntactical parallel to Acts 28:6 where there is a statement in indirect discourse; John 1:1 is direct....I am neither a Christian nor a Trinitarian." Kaufman: Dr. ... deity of the Word...in the third clause 'the Word' is declared to be 'God' ans so included in the unity of the Godhead." ... Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #13 refuted Click to View "The Decepto-meter" Satanic Quote This is a satanic deliberate ... It [The NT] offers no room for a statement of the relations of Father, Son, and Spirit which would imply that one of them is ... Such deception of wickedness! In fact, the Watchtower felt that the doctrines the spirit revealed to Greber, were true. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john1-1.htm | 78% Size: 76K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 13: | Schaff, Philip: 1. History of the Christian Church. 2. New Schaff ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian The Watchtower deliberately misleads the readers to the wrong conclusion that Philip Schaff, believes the origin of trinity is from the "pagan doctrines" of Plato! Schaff openly states in the that trinity has its origin in the scripture. Schaff, Philip: 1. History of the Christian Church. 2. New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you ... The Indian Trimurti, altogether pantheistic in spirit, is still further from the Christian Trinity" (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church New York: Scribner's, 1924, vol. 2, ... p18) "The Biblical Doctrine: Early dogmaticians were of the opinion that so essential a doctrine as that of the Trinity could not have been unknown to the men of the Old Testament. ... Trinity, Doctrine of the; p18) "The doctrine of the divine Trinity is the summarized statement of the historical revelation of redemption for the Christian consciousness of God. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Schaff.htm | 74% Size: 27K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 14: | Encyclopedia Americana No wonder the Governing Body has such a dismal reputation for lack of scholarly integrity. Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source What they left out to deliberately ... Fourth century trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching. This quote from Encyclopedia Americana, 1956 Vol. XXVII, p. 294L., is deceptive because it projects the false impression that early Christian teaching" was not Trinitarian. "For the early Christian belief that Jesus was divine, the Son of God, and ... However both taught trinity, the uncreated deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. The current theocratic organization of Jehovah's Witnesses as taught in the 20th century was not present in the Bible either, since there was no organization larger than local independent and autonomous churches. What Influenced It? India. Triune Hindu godhead, c. 7th century C.E. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Americana.htm | 74% Size: 15K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 15: | The Error of the Catholic Nicene Trinity Spirit) Vs. Essential Trinity: A more formal understanding of the essential nature or being of God as Triune, as presented in Creedal statements. What Jehovah's Witnesses never understand: The Trinity that is found in the Bible vs. the Trinity that is not found in the Bible! For a full discussion click on the following links or see below. Fortman, Edmund: The Triune God Kelly, J.N.D.: Early Christian Doctrines Hastings, James, Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics Eliade, Mircea, The Encyclopedia of Religion Warning: Before you continue: As you read the quotes below, it is essential for you to identify the "Trinity that is found in the Bible" vs. the "Trinity that is not found in the Bible"! All the Trinitarian authors below make reference to both ... Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective; among the 2d-century Apologists, little more than a focusing of the problem as that of plurality within the unique Godhead. ... ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-catholic-nicene.htm | 73% Size: 31K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 16: | Lohse, Bernard: A Short History of Christian Doctrine Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian First the Watchtower leaves the reader with the false impression that Lohse believes that trinity originated with the ... Constantine as a faithless sun-god pagan idol worshipper with no understanding of Christianity who single-handedly introduces trinity to Christianity from the pagans and is almost the author of the Nicene creed. Lohse, Bernard: A Short History of Christian Doctrine Click to View A Short ... This does not mean very much, however, for generally speaking the New Testament is less intent upon setting forth certain doctrines than it is upon proclaiming the ... Lohse flatly contradicts the Watchtower view that Trinity came from the Pagans. Rather what Lohse says, and correctly so, is that early Christians would frame Christian ... and that Trinity is not found in the Bible projects the false impression that such facts refute the fact that Jesus is divine and the Holy Spirit is a person not a thing! ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Lohse.htm | 73% Size: 22K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 17: | Fortman, Edmund: The Triune God Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote & False Dilemma: Trinitarian They project the false impression that Fortman either rejects ... Documentation of selective Quoting that misleads: How the Watchtower quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and ... Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead." (The Triune God, Edmund Fortman, quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) The doctrine of the Triune God has had an amazing history. Convinced that this doctrine is a Christian doctrine that did and could originate only from divine ... It tells us of His Word, Wisdom. Spirit, of the Messiah He will send, of a Son of Man and a Suffering Servant to come. But it tells us nothing explicitly ... Probably no more could be expected at this early stage of theological development when the concepts of person and nature were as yet undefined. If God ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Fortman.htm | 73% Size: 76K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 18: | Hastings, James: Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Fails to inform the reader that the Egyptians would label JW's as ... that we find God viewed as a Trinity. One recalls in particular the Neo-Platonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality," which is "triadically represented." (Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings, quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) "(b) Although the notion of a divine Triad or Trinity is characteristic of the Christian religion, it is by no means peculiar to it. In Indian religion e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of ... of God and the supreme revelation of the Father, and the quickening Spirit of life is acknowledged to be derived ' from on high." And so, when the early Christians would describe their conception of God, all the three ... be observed that there is no real cleavage or antithesis between the doctrines of the economic and the essential Trinity, and naturally so. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hastings.htm | 72% Size: 27K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 19: | Biblical Trinity is not borrowed from the pagans! This does not mean very much, however, for generally speaking the New Testament is less intent upon setting forth certain doctrines than it ... Speaking first of the person of Jesus Christ ... In other passages of the New Testament the predicate "God" is without a doubt applied to Christ (A Short History of Christian Doctrine, Bernard Lohse, 1966, p37-39) [NOTE: Lohse says, and correctly so, is that early Christians would frame Christian ... In 3000 AD, it would be just as ridiculous to dig up Watchtower Magazines from this century and conclude JW's (should they survive past 2014 ... The Indian Trimurti, altogether pantheistic in spirit, is still further from the Christian Trinity" (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian ... In utter deception and scholarly dishonesty, anti-Trinitarians constantly quote a source/author as proof that trinity is borrowed from the ... Within the Watchtower article, Jehovah's Witnesses deliberately fail to tell you that Norton or Lamson is an anti-trinitarian. They always ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-pagan.htm | 72% Size: 124K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 20: | Encyclopædia Britannica ... The Christian doctrine of the Trinity has its ultimate foundation in the special religious experience of the Christians in the first ... Thus what Britannica is saying is that the early Christians had to come to an understanding that balanced their belief in oneness of God and their believe in the Deity of Christ derived from Apostle John. Again extremely deceptive and misleading! (And JW's wonder why the Watchtower has no scholarly credibility.) What else did they fail to quote from this source? Trinity is based upon scripture not paganism. The apostolic faith ... One"; and (3) as the Holy Spirit, whom they experienced as the power of the new life, the miraculous potency of the Kingdom of God. ... only in the form of the dove and thus receded, to a large extent, in the Trinitarian speculation. Introduction of Neoplatonic themes. ... Because the Godhead is unique, it cannot be shared or communicated so that the Son cannot be God. Because the Godhead is immutable, the Son, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Britannica.htm | 71% Size: 95K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 21: | TRINITY: Christology: Diety and Humanity of our Savour! ... Thus we have Irenaeus's vision of the Godhead, the most complete, and also most explicitly Trinitarian, to be met with before Tertullian. Its second-century traits stand out clearly, particularly its representation of the ... the fundamental tenet of monotheism, but its unavoidable corollary was a certain obscuring of the position of the Son and the Spirit as 'Persons' (to use the jargon of later theology) prior to their generation or emission. ... of the Godhead. The whole point of the great illustrative image which he, like his predecessors, employed, that of a man with his intellectual and spiritual functions, was to bring out, however inadequately, the fact that there are real distinctions in the immanent being of the unique, indivisible Father, and that while these were only fully manifested in the 'economy', they were actually there from all eternity." (J. N. D. Kelly, Early Christian Doctrines, p 107) 6. In the words of Jesus and in much of the rest of the NT the God of Israel ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-deity-of-christ.htm | 70% Size: 117K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 22: | Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity In fact, Weigall specifically addresses the Watchtower/Arian/Jw view of God known as Angel-Christology, stating that ... Problem is, Weigall claims to have found 27 major Bible doctrines to exist in Pagan religions before it was first recorded in the ... Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet: "The origin of the [Trinity] is ... 'Lord," Sunday must have been 'the Lord's Day' long before Christian times." (Now that's clear, Leo Schreven, Seventh-day Adventist ... origin: p41 The virgin birth is of pagan origin: p44,47,60 The early life of Jesus is totally unknown: p49 Jesus born in a stable and ... by the victorious Athanasians, of the doctrine of Christ's godhead." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, 1928, ... recognized the mysterious and undefined existence of the Holy Spirit; but there was no thought of these three being an actual ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Weigall.htm | 70% Size: 54K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 23: | Harnack, Adolf: Outlines of the History of Dogma Deceptive quote: Modernist and Christianity trasher! The Watchtower extracts an isolated quote in the midst of a complicated theological ... Harnack's methods and assumptions forced him to reject major doctrines of Christianity such as the Virgin birth, the deity and ... Watchtower publication) The Christian religion in the 3rd century made no compromise with any of the pagan religions and kept far away from the numerous intersections out of which, under the influence of the monotheistic philosophy of religion, a now religiousness developed itself. But the spirit of ... differs from the creatures, an indefinable being who only becomes God in becoming man, and who is neither God nor man." (Outlines of the ... Harnack tells us that the influence of Hellenism led to "the invention of mechanically-atoning consecrations (sacraments)" not trinitarian ... to earth to redeem the elect (the so-called 'Gnostic redeemer myth') borrowed by the early Christians and applied to the risen Jesus. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Harnack.htm | 70% Size: 52K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 24: | Ralph P. Martin: The Epistle of Paul to the Philippians Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Trinitarians take both the active and passive of "harpagmos" (grasped). Martin flat out says that ... believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication, John 10:30; p 416-423) Comments: Although Martin says that "to hold fast" is questionable (in his opinion), he outright states in the same article that it is clearly permitted in the Greek. What they left out of the quote: Being in very nature God ... In his pre-existent state Christ already had as his possession the unique dignity of his place within the Godhead. The eternal Son of God, however, faced with a parallel temptation, renounced ... incarnate and enthroned Lord must share his spirit, and be controlled by the pattern of self-effacement and humility which his incarnation and cross supremely display. ... solutions of these verses is attempted by the author in the Tyndale Lecture, An Early Christian Confession: Philippians ii. 5-11 in recent interpretation (Tyndale, 196o), and ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Martin.htm | 69% Size: 31K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 25: | Encyclopedia of Pentecostal ministries and preachers ... causing disarrangement's of the clothing and disgraceful scenes, is more a characteristic of demon possession, than a work of the Holy Spirit. ... It is an indisputable fact that Parham rejected several of the central tenets of the Christian faith and that he was charged with sodomy. It is also a ... Latter Rain teachings are denounced by the Assemblies of God in 1950, but resurface in the charismatic movement of the early 1960's. Latter Rain Doctrines include: The restoration of the office of the Apostle and Prophet to head the Church. ... You can see this lax view of prophetic standards in this Arnott observation! This quote may well have been said before June 9th. [Arnott] "People get ... whore Babylon false church - he was still revered as a true prophet by almost every major Pentecostal and Charismatic ministry (who are Trinitarian). ... It's three offices or three dispensations,..." (William Branham, Conduct, Order, Doctrine Q and A, p. 392). (This view of the Godhead is called ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/tongues-encyclopedia-pentecostal-preachers.htm | 69% Size: 247K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 26: | Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library ... Boobyer believes the Bible writers were affected by pagan thought and denies the inspiration of Scripture. Look at the incredible quote below. Boobyer has the ... Even worse, the Watchtower had to remove that section from a same sentence that Boobyer denies Jesus is both Christ and God! Full Text: What I want to say on ... about the nature of God now emerging outside and within the Christian churches is accepted, a restatement of traditional Christology is certainly necessitated. ... certainly was another person ; then if God is not to be conceived as another Person, in what sense may Jesus still be confessed as " True God from true God " and " perfect in Godhead ? ... There now exists a widespread recognition that early Christology, and especially New Testament Christology, was an out growth of the Christian experience of ... the sake of the argument the New Testament references to the Holy Spirit are left on one side, would not the resultant conception of God be a form of ditheism ? ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Rylands.htm | 68% Size: 46K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 27: | Early Christian faith on Trinity, deity of Christ, personality ... Earliest Christians taught Trinity! (50 - 600 AD) Uninspired records of how early Christians worshipped and what doctrine ... by that diversity a separation of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" (Against Praxeas, 9) 200 AD Tertullian "[W]hen God says, ... We draw your attention to the fact that the quoted words (from "Should you believe in the trinity", Watchtower booklet), ... to sin" (Against Hermogones, Ch 3) see next quote: 200 AD Tertullian [Interesting that Tertullian being a modalist, not only says there was a time before the Son became the Son, so too a time before God was the Father] Because God is in like manner ... the bowl, by which is meant, that the Saviour, uniting his Godhead, like pure wine, with the flesh in the Virgin, was born of ... God" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:0:4). 225 AD Origen "For we do not hold that which the heretics imagine: that some part of ... Christ, entreat you that ye use Christian nourishment only, and abstain from herbage of a different kind; I mean heresy. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-trinity.htm | 68% Size: 122K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 28: | False Doctrine of Modalism: As taught by the United Pentecostal ... ... they invent one of the most unbiblical and just plain silly doctrines known on earth, namely that Jesus had two spirits: 1. the eternal ... We get much of our information on the Modalists from Tertullian (died c. 225), who wrote a treatise against Praxeas. The early Christians ... are all one Person with different "offices," rather than three Persons who are one Being in the Godhead, as the orthodox position holds. ... Would any Trinitarian claim that God the father had no sympathy with his own son as he hung upon the cross? The Modalists never used the term of themselves.) ... They believed that they were under the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit. Although they treasured the Gospel of John, Montanism tended to ... Scholars have traced Phrygian syncretism from the third century b.c. to the Christian movement called Montanism in the second century a.d. ... But interesting Jesus does in the next verse of Jn 17 that they fail to quote: "I in them, and Thou in Me, that they may be perfected in ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism.htm | 68% Size: 106K Depth: 4 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 29: | Sabbatatrians Refuted and Sabbath keepers Exposed: 2011 AD ... It is critically important to understand the reality of this part of ancient calendar and astronomical history. Therefore, we quote at ... Anan Ben David (CE 715-795 or 811?) arose as a major proponent of the Karaite sect when the Jews from another sect began teaching doctrines ... rather on the principle that the Torah, which came directly from God, is to be the Jew's only guide to Faith-that the Talmud and ... the lunar Sabbath at the time of Christ. (3) The writings of the early fathers of the Christian church document the fact that some Christians and Jews kept the ... Robert K. Sanders clarifies what God's law really is in the next section. THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT by Robert K. Sanders We observe that most ... 1260 years) represent the time span of the apostasy of the Church (for Newton this means the Trinitarian Church, chiefly the Catholics). ... further explains, citing Dr. Russell Earl Kelly, on his website: http://www.nonsda.org/study6.shtml Are the 2300 days really 2300 years? ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-lying-for-god-Kerry-Wynne.htm | 67% Size: 2.6M Depth: 1 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 30: | Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd ... Late-daters say Domitian was the 6th "living Caesar" (Rev 17:11) but he is 9th if Julius is counted first and 8th if Augustus is counted first. c. Though late-daters love to quote ... of Caesar, as you say, and pretend not to know who I am, let me tell you plainly: I am a Christian. ... Then they decided to shout out unanimously to have Polycarp burned alive. ... While the Bible teaches that Jesus is Creator God and the Holy Spirit is a person, the developed trinitarian formula seems over-emphasized and a bit early. c. Polycarp being called "THE Bishop" rather than "A presbyter" marks the story after AD 200. The evolution from a plurality of ... But once she had come to know the teachings of Christ she became reformed and tried in turn to persuade her husband to reform his own life, calling to his mind the doctrines of ... Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body." (1 Corinthians 6:13) b. Its always a comedy to see the Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower magazine ... ... https://www.bible.ca/revelation/ | 67% Size: 3.0M Depth: 7 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 31: | Chadwick, Henry: The Early Church Top 10 List: Click here When a Jehovah's Witness reads this top ten list, they either conclude the Watchtower organization engages is satanic quoting practices, or become dishonest themselves! Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote : Trinitarian Misleads the reader to a conclusion opposite to what source is saying. Chadwick, Henry: The Early Church Click to View "Constantine, like his father, worshipped the Unconquered Sun; ... his conversion should not be interpreted as an inward experience of grace ... It was a military matter. His comprehension of Christian doctrine was never very clear, but he was sure that victory in battle lay in the gift of the God of the Christians." (The Early Church, Henry Chadwick, quoted in, Should you ... Encyclopedia Britannica fully documents the incredible extent that Constantine went to destroy paganism and idolatry in the same spirit of many of the righteous kings of the Old Testament! Encyclopedia Britannica is a must read ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Chadwick.htm | 65% Size: 17K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 32: | Kung, Hans: Christianity and the World Religions Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian JW's quote Kung, and project the false view that they would have an easier time converting Muslims to Watchtower view of God, (where they call Jesus Lord, a God, and Messiah) than Trinitarians to the Triune God. They failed to tell you this that Kung said: "the decisive Christian objection was that Islam denied the two basic, interconnected dogmas of Christianity; the Trinity and the Incarnation". Kung, Hans: Christianity and the ... / but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, / was only the Messenger of God, and His Word / that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from / Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, / and say not, 'Three.' Refrain; better is it / for you. ... They do not see why faith in one God, the faith of Abraham, which both Moses and Jesus and, finally, Muhammad, clung so firmly to, is not abandoned when, along with the one godhead, the one divine nature, Christians simultaneously accept three ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Kung.htm | 64% Size: 15K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 33: | Boer, Harry R.: A Short History of the Early Church Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Leaves out the comment that JW's theology is of pagan origin. Boer, Harry R.: A Short History of the Early Church Click to View Harry R. Boer, A Short History of the Early Church quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication Watchtower Deception exposed: But why? Certainly not because of any Biblical conviction. "Constantine had basically no understanding whatsoever of the questions that were being asked in Greek theology," says A Short History of Christian Doctrine. The first emperor to become a Christian, Constantine ... of Caesarea, already highly reputed; and Alexander of Alexandria, with his following." (God in Three Persons, Millard J. Erickson, p82-85) More misused quotes: What Anti-Trinitarians ... The early church accepted him as a man, and confessed and worshiped him as God. It placed him on the same level as the Father and the Holy Spirit. It did this naturally and without any feeling ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Boer.htm | 64% Size: 18K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 34: | Johannes Greber: "The New Testament", and "Communication with ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Click to View Satanic quote: occult spiritist Click to View Both Greber and JW's believe spirits communicate with them! One of the most common references Jehovah's Witnesses once used to support "a god" in John 1:1. There is irrefutable proof that Greber was known to the Watchtower as an occult ... Such deception of wickedness! In fact, the Watchtower felt that the doctrines the spirit revealed to Greber, were true. Remember, the Watchtower believes that the Holy Spirit communicates with the "governing body" in the production of the ... We want to draw your attention to the fact that what happened to Greber is common among "Christian/Pentecostal" and occult religions around the world. Click to View Click here to see similarities between ... Trinity is a Human Creation You teach the union of three persons in one Godhead ... This is a piece of human fallacy and is an absurdity. (p.265) ... Christ taught a unipersonalist God ... He knows of no ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Greber.htm | 64% Size: 27K Depth: 6 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 35: | Grant, Robert M.: Gods and the One God Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that author has no Biblical basis for believing in the divinity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit (Biblical trinity) Grant, Robert M.: Gods and the One God Quoted by Anti-Trinitarians What they failed to tell you "The Christology of the apologies, like that of the New Testament, is essentially subordinationist. The Son is always subordinate to the Father, who is the one God of the Old Testament. . . . What we find in these early authors, then, is not a doctrine of the Trinity . . . Before Nicaea, Christian theology was almost universally subordinationist." (Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant, as quoted by Anti-Trinitarians) ... Her rank is lower, but she is made of the identical stuff as the man! Full Text: "An anonymous author of the late second century discusses some of the apologists among those who held doctrines like his. Since he himself refers to "our compassionate ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Grant.htm | 64% Size: 12K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 36: | Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Secular JW's project the false impression that ancient Babylonians would not label the Watchtower version of God as a Triad. (Father-true God, Son-a created demi-god and Holy Spirit-the force or energy of God) Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the ... Our comment The very same page that JW's use to say that the Christian Trinity was borrowed from the Babylonians also decribes this triad almost exactly like JW's view Jehovah! "He [Anu] was god in the ... God very similar to themselves. (Trinitarians) Stated differently, from the perspective of ancient Babylonian there is NO REAL DIFFERENCE between the Trinitarian view of God and the Arian (JW's) view of God. ... In the land of' Sumer, and particularly at Nippur, Enlil, Lord of the Air, had been worshipped from early times. Enlil was the god of the hurricane and his weapon was the amaru, that is, the deluge. Like the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Larousse.htm | 64% Size: 15K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 37: | Watchtower Deceptions: Confusing Modalism as if it were trinity ... Jehovah's Witnesses really don't understand the difference between Trinity and Modalism. In fact Modalism is just as Anti-Trinitarian as Arianism, just in a different way. But in utter deception, the Watchtower applies Modalistic interpretations to a passage, then refutes it. What the average Jw's doesn't understand, is that Trinitarians apply the identical logic to refute Modalism. Here is something that is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT for the JW to understand. When a born again Christian points to Scriptures that demonstrate Jesus is God, THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO PROVE ... the Son, the Holy Spirit), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God (Reasoning from the Scriptures, p.405). ... Within the text, Jesus' prayer in Gesthsemane is quoted, "Let not MY will, but YOURS take place" (Luke 22:42; emphasis in original quote). LF then asks, "if Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-modalism.htm | 64% Size: 15K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 38: | Eliade, Mircea: Encyclopedia of Religion of Religion, Mircea Eliade, Vol 15, Trinity, p53-57, as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) What else did they fail to quote from this source? theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of ... p53-57) It was prompted chiefly by belief in the divinity of Christ and later in the divinity of the Holy Spirit, but even earlier by the consistent worship of God in a trinitarian pattern and the practice of baptism into the threefold name of God.(The Encyclopedia of Religion, Mircea ... Full texts: "TRINITY. Trinitarian doctrine touches on virtually every aspect of Christian faith, theology, and piety, including Christology and pneumatology, theological epistemology (faith, revelation, theological ... God the Father is source of all that is (Pantokrator) and also the father of Jesus Christ; "Father" is not a title for the first person of the Trinity but a synonym for God. Early liturgical and creedal formulas speak ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Eliade.htm | 63% Size: 27K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 39: | Newman, John Henry: Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian It is deceptive to deliberately misrepresent Newman to say that trinity is pagan origin, when in the same ... of Christian Doctrine What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "Let us allow that the whole circle of doctrines, of which our Lord is the subject, was consistently and uniformly confessed by the Primitive Church . . . But it surely is otherwise with the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity. I do not see in what sense it can be said that there is a consensus of primitive [church authorities] in its favour . . . The Creeds of that early day make no ... far enough to be only a heretic not enough to prove that one has held that the Son is God (for so did the Sabellian, so did the Macedonian) and another that the Father is not the ... His generation?" "She is the Breath of the Power of God"; and "His Eternal Power and Godhead." (Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, John Henry Newman, a cardinal by ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Newman.htm | 63% Size: 23K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 40: | Norton, Andrews: A Statement of reasons for not believing the ... To quote a Unitarian theologian, as an authority to prove the pagan origin of Trinity, is about as trustworthy and believable as quoting the a Catholic Bishop to prove that Peter was the first Pope! Norton, Andrews: A Statement of reasons for not believing the doctrines of the Trinitarians concerning the nature of God and the person of Christ Click to View "In the book A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton says of the Trinity: 'We can trace the history of this doctrine, and discover its source, not in the Christian revelation, but in the ... MA, p 94, 104., as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) Awake Magazine! 11-8-52 Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware ... an actual person, in the same way that Jehovah's Witnesses teach that the Holy Spirit is the personification of God's power and not an actual person. ... edition, American Unitarian Association, Boston, MA) p ix, biographical notice) That Norton is the leader of an Anti-trinitarian "Unitarian" church. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Norton.htm | 63% Size: 11K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 41: | Master Index of Quotes of Quotes used to trash the Trinity in ... Click to View Satanic quoting practices exposed: "Hostile witness approach" misused by the Watchtower in: "Should You Believe in the Trinity"(Watchtower booklet) Click to View Click to View Master Index of Quotes of Quotes used to trash the Trinity in the Watchtower's, "Should you believe the Trinity?" and other anti-Trinitarian books. Click to View Sort by "Author" Click to View Sort by "Book Title" Sorted ... Theological Dictionary Henderson, Ian Encyclopedia International Hertz, J. H. The Pentateuch and Haftorahs Hick, John The Myth of God Incarnate Hislop, Alexander The Two Babylons Hodder and Stoughton Illustrated Bible Dictionary Hopkins, E. Washburn Origin and Evolution of Religion History of Religions ISBE International Standard Bible Encyclopedia International Standard Bible Encyclopedia Jocz, Jacob The Jewish People and Jesus Christ Kelly, J.N.D. Early Christian Doctrines Kennedy, H.A.A. Expositor's Greek Testament, Philippians Kittel, Gerhard Theological Dictionary of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-master-index-quotes.htm | 63% Size: 47K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 42: | Werner, Martin: The Formation of Christian Dogma Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Modernist: believes in Angel Christology Werner is a flaming modernist typical of almost all university ... How the Watchtower quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "In the Primitive Christian era there was no sign of any kind of Trinitarian problem or controversy, such as later produced violent conflicts in the Church. The reason for this undoubtedly lay in the fact that, for Primitive Christianity, Christ was . . . a being of the high celestial angel-world, who was created and chosen by God for the task of bringing in, at the ... "The course of the age-long doctrinal conflicts of the Early Church shows, for example, that the Trinitarian and Christological problems were by no means effectively ... The Valentinian Gnostic had been, accordingly, so far as the existing sources permit us to know, the first Christian theologian to designate the Father, Son and Spirit ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Werner.htm | 63% Size: 27K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 43: | Metzger, Bruce M. and Coogan, Michael D., Editors; Daniel N. ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian Anti-trinitarians selective quote in such a way to mislead to reader into ... What Anti-Trinitarians quote: What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "Because the Trinity is such an important part of later Christian doctrine, it is striking that the term does not appear in the NT. Likewise, the developed concept of three coequal partners in the Godhead found in later creedal formulations cannot be clearly detected with the confines of the canon. ... (Mt 28.19) ... Matthew records a special connection between God the Father and Jesus the Son but he falls short of claiming that Jesus is equal with God. ... While there are other New Testament texts where God, Jesus, and the Spirit are referred to in the same passage (e.g., Jude 20-21), it is ... They leave out Scholwalter's statement that early Christians worshipped Jesus The mislead the reader into thinking that Scholwalter rejects ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Metzger.htm | 63% Size: 12K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 44: | Morenz, Siegfried: Egyptian Religion Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Christianity Morenz, Siegfried: Egyptian Religion Click to View Egyptian Religion, by Morenz Siegfried quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source What ... In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology." Thus, in Alexandria, Egypt, churchmen of the late third and early fourth centuries, such as Athanasius, reflected this influence as ... The multifarious links between Egypt and Judaeo-Christian scriptures and trinitarian theology can already be traced with some degree of plausibility. ... All this entitles us to the opinion that Egypt played its part in the efforts of Christians to achieve an understanding of God and his works, which are ... These questions are discussed in the doctrines concerning Shu, the son of the Heliopolitan primary god Atum, which the Coffin Texts have preserved for us; ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Morenz.htm | 63% Size: 23K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 45: | BEWARE: Arian Biased Translations Bible Scoffers and Arians make strange bedfellows! Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal refuted Below are the Bibles Jehovah's Witnesses will quote to support their false ... However, Schonfield, author of "The Passover Plot", makes Jesus into a charlatan, and doesn't even believe in the deity of God the Father! Schonfield, an advocate of the "swoon theory" is quoted by the Muslims in support of their view that Jesus didn't actually die on the cross. Jehovah's Witnesses habitually quote faithless men like this to trash the trinity. ("The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, quoted in "Should you believe in the Trinity, Watchtower Publication) Johannes Greber: is quoted by the Watchtower, but he is an occult spiritist, who claimed to get his translation through a spirit ... The fact that the word "Christian" is found 32 times in these Bibles, when in fact it is only found three times in the Greek is proof enough that it is unreliable as ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-translations.htm | 62% Size: 12K Depth: 4 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 46: | Interactive Bible Home Page www.bible.ca Anyone can understand what the Bible says. It is fun!!! 4. Fundamental Bible Doctrines What the Bible teaches on doctrinal subjects 5. Do you know what your church ... 9. The Supernatural God, Holy Spirit, angels, demons, Deity of Christ, heaven, hell, soul, spirit 10. Expository Files: Bible book outlines. 11. Evangelism 12. Bible prophecy 13. Psychiatry, Mental illness, Anxiety and Depression 14. Commentary on the book of Revelation 15. Holy Spirit: Tongues have ... Literary sources 7. Early Christians Speak! Historical documentation of what early Christians believed 8. The Origin of Synagogues as a model for the Christian church 9. Septuagint and Bible manuscript variants in the Old Testament 10. ... 7. Trinity and the oneness, unity of God 8. Trinity subordination within the Godhead 9. Trinity proof texts Unitarians and Anti-Trinitarians refuted: 1. Satanic and deceptive quoting practices in Watchtower by Jehovah's Witnesses 2. Anti trinity proof texts refuted 3. Trinity is not ... ... https://www.bible.ca/ | 62% Size: 96K Depth: 0 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 47: | Trinity Attackers refuted! (Watchtower's: Should You Believe ... ... JW's are trying to deceive you into thinking that the first time the Holy Spirit was thought of as the their person of the trinity is in 362 AD. Look what they left out of the same article: "But is a personal existence clearly attributed to the Spirit? No doubt, all through the N.T. his action is described as personal." So obviously the quote used by the Watchtower is misleading and deceptive! Click here for further proof in 100-200 AD that early Christians clearly ... Second Corinthians 13:13 (14) puts the three together in this way: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." Notice even the Watchtower can see that these three passages clearly speak of PERSONS! Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, and eternity? No, they do not, no more than listing three people, such as Tom, Dick, and Harry, means that they are ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-frames-start-page-SYBTT-bible-section.htm | 62% Size: 727 bytes Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 48: | Lachatre, M. Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (New Universal Dictionary ... The dictionary suggests, but clearly indicates it is not sure, ("appears to be" is not certain) that there is a connection between the Christian trinity and the "Platonic trinity". In ... hypostases" and "Biblical/elemental trinity." (deity of Christ and personality of the Holy Spirit) The Watchtower implies a conclusion that is not warranted. The quote STATES WITH SURETY that that one pagan (Plato) borrowed his trinity from another pagan! ... In utter deception, Jehovah's Witnesses know there are many similarities in Pagan religions that, using the same bad logic, could prove that the Watchtower borrowed the doctrines of ... We also argue that Baptism, the Lord's supper and the second coming of Christ was not revealed to the Jews! But that does not mean that there were not pieces of Trinitarian theology ... JW's are notorious at taking quotes like this that say nothing against trinitarian theology, and make it appear the quote demolishes the fact that Christ is God. Go To Alphabetical ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Lachatre.htm | 62% Size: 7K Depth: 3 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 49: | Yes we can pray to Jesus! Prayer is simply talking to Jesus Yes we can pray to Jesus! Prayer is simply talking to Jesus. Praying to Jesus The oldest surviving fragment of an early Christian liturgical prayer is probably "Our Lord, come" (Maranatha, I Corinthians 16:22; compare Revelation 22:20); it implies ... When we address "Jehovah" or "God" in prayer, does that not automatically include all three members of the Godhead? Obviously we can pray to the Holy Spirit as well! We pray only to God! The Holy Spirit is God! Arian's actually say that we cannot pray to Jesus because He is not God. (but JW's have never read Jn 20:28 and obey whatever the apostate Watchtower says.) The "A.C.T.S." of prayer: We commonly divide prayer up into and acronym = "A.C.T.S." A = adoration (praise) C = confession T = ... Click to View M. The very last verse of the Bible ends with a prayer to Jesus: Rev 22:20 "Even so, come Lord Jesus" is an example of prayer to Jesus. Click to View N. The prayer of Acts 4:24f contained a quote from Psalm 2, a psalm clearly ... ... https://www.bible.ca/ntx-praying-to-jesus.htm | 62% Size: 13K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
| 50: | Scriptures were more important than tradition to Apostolic Fathers A conservative, bible believing perspective! God's providence gave us the 27 book New Testament Canon, not the church. God, not men decided the canon. This ... They also love adding doctrines absent from the Bible like the perpetual virgin state of Mary, praying to Mary, the assumption of Mary etc. Roman Catholic and Orthodox leaders feel they are above the Bible... and it shows. Some Roman Catholic and Orthodox leaders actually try to use Irenaeus as an example of an early Christian leader ... In fact the Roman Catholic, Orthodox and Kingdom hall, (Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower) churches all claim to be God's exclusive organization to correctly ... anathema's upon the other's "saints", severed communion with each other over "filioque", (whether the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son ). ... Let me quote an Orthodox Father named Raymond L. Zell, in his booklet called, "Scripture and tradition." Pg. 2: "Wait a minute! How can so many contradictory ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scriptures-tradition-apostolic-fathers.htm | 62% Size: 39K Depth: 2 Find Similar Match Info Show Parents |
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