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Trinity is not borrowed from the pagans! |
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View Summary document : Six reasons why trinity is not pagan
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Reputable scholars, secular encyclopedias and Trinitarians never say trinity is of pagan origin and openly deny such. |
Jehovah's Witnesses are Polytheists: (henotheist)
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Father Almighty God
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Son Mighty God
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Devil god of world
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Angels gods
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A technically more accurate term to describe Jehovah's Witnesses and Unitarians in general is henotheist rather than polytheist. But what Jehovah's Witness has ever heard of the term "henotheist". We frankly don't care to educate the Jehovah's Witnesses world wide! In a broader sense, in the way they define polytheism, by their own understanding, they are polytheists. We simply used their own measuring stick on themselves!
Hindus would see little difference between themselves and Jehovah's Witnesses.
Babylonians would see little difference between themselves and Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jews and Muslims would label Jehovah's Witnesses as polytheists!
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The " Decepto-meter"Click here: Cataloguing and evaluating all the Quotes index using the "Decepto-meter". |
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Only Atheists, Christianity Trashers, Jews, Muslims and Fellow anti-Trinitarians, say trinity is of pagan origin:
The dishonesty of
quoting non-Christian's, skeptics and atheists world religions to trash the trinity.Documentation:
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Christianity Trasher |
" The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) |
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Christianity Trasher Will Durant |
" Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity." ("Will Durant", quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower booklet) |
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Christianity Trasher Winwood Reade |
" Christianity had conquered paganism, and paganism had corrupted Christianity. (Winwood Reade, Philosopher and historian, The Martyrdom of Man, p 183-84, quoted by anti-Trinitarians) |
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Christianity Trasher Lyman Abbott |
Trinity " is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith." (A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge, Lyman Abbott, p944, as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) |
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Atheist Edward Gibbon |
" If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief." (Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity, quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) ("History of Christianity", by Edward Gibbon, 1891, p. xvi) |
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Jewish Rabbi J. H. Hertz |
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Unitarian Andrews Norton |
"In the book A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton says of the Trinity: ' We can trace the history of this doctrine, and discover its source, not in the Christian revelation, but in the Platonic philosophy . . . The Trinity is not a doctrine of Christ and his Apostles, but a fiction of the school of the later Platonists.'" (A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton, 1872, Fifth edition, American Unitarian Association, Boston, MA, p 94, 104., as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication)"The name of Andrews Norton has long been widely known as that of one of the ablest theologians and most accomplished critics of our time; standing, in his department of service, at the head of the Unitarian movement in this country. His memory will be ever admiringly cherished by those who sympathized with him in his religious views" (A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton, 1872, Fifth edition, American Unitarian Association, Boston, MA) p ix, biographical notice)Asking Norton what he thinks about the trinity is like asking a Jw if the Watchtower magazine is God's channel of communication to man today or asking the Pope if Peter is the first Pope! Quoting Norton is worthless because it is quoting your own personal opinion! |
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Unitarian |
" The doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; . . . it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures; . . . it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers." (The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, 1860 edition, p. 34., British and Foreign Unitarian Association, As quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication)Alvan Lamson was a top leader and theologian in the a Unitarian type church! We ask how objective is it to use a Unitarian as proof that trinity is pagan origin? This is an example of self quoting! The Watchtower is guilty of a kind of self-quoting, while leading you to believe that he is a trinitarian! JW's don't want you to know that the greatest historical authority they use to summarize all the historical data in their book "Should you believe the Trinity", is an anti-trinitarian! Their book says, "Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries ...". Since they can't find any Trinitarians to say that Trinity was " ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers" they must turn to Anti-Trinitarians. Most often, they turn to atheists who trash not only Trinity, but the whole of Christianity as of pagan origin! |
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Unitarian Victor Wierwille |
So how then did a Trinitarian doctrine come about? It gradually evolved and gained momentum in the late first, second and third centuries as pagans, who had converted to Christianity, brought to Christianity some of their pagan beliefs and practices. Trinitarianism then was confirmed at Nicaea in 325 by Church bishops out of political expediency" (Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille, Arian, Leader of The Way International, Jesus Christ is Not God, p. 25-26) |
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Christian/pagan parallels are far broader than Trinity or angel-Christology doctrine. |
Christian/pagan parallels are far broader than Trinity or angel-Christology doctrine:
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Plato |
Logos, trinity, all-mighty God, spiritual/non-physical outlook |
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God as a Father, King of the Land, Lord of all, Divine family with God's Son, God's begotten Son, incarnation, atonement, sacrifice, new birth, sin, divine word, angels, demons, washings |
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Noah Flood story |
In the past century, scholars have found four major early records which preserve accounts similar to the record of Genesis 1-11. The Epic of Gilgamesh, the Summerian King-List, the Semitic Old-Babylonian Epic of Atrakhasis, and the Summerian Flood Story, all were written between the twentieth and seventeenth centuries B.C. Yet they all match the outline of Genesis 1-11. |
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Creation story |
One hundred years ago it was fashionable for theologians in higher-critical circles to insist that Genesis plagiarized these other Mesopotamian sources. Since then, it has become evident that they all independently record what they believed was a genuine event in ancient (to them as well as to us today) history (K. A. Kitchen, The Bible in Its World, pp. 26-32) |
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Arthur Weigall a Bible Trasher, draws the following parallels:"The Paganism in Our Christianity" by Arthur Weigall |
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Christianity was not derived from pagan sourcesSupporting Texts:
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Justin Martyr wrote in 150 AD on similarities between paganism and Christianity. |
Justin Martyr: 150 AD:
"Chapter LXIX.-The Devil, Since He Emulates the Truth, Has Invented Fables About Bacchus, Hercules, and Aesculapius. "Be well assured, then, Trypho," I continued, "that I am established in the knowledge of and faith in the Scriptures by those counterfeits which he who is called the devil is said to have performed among the Greeks; just as some were wrought by the Magi in Egypt, and others by the false prophets in Elijah's days. For when they tell that Bacchus, son of Jupiter, was begotten by [Jupiter's] intercourse with Semele, and that he was the discoverer of the vine; and when they relate, that being torn in pieces, and having died, he rose again, and ascended to heaven; and when they introduce wine into his mysteries, do I not perceive that [the devil] has imitated the prophecy announced by the patriarch Jacob, and recorded by Moses? And when they tell that Hercules was strong, and travelled over all the world, and was begotten by Jove of Alcmene, and ascended to heaven when he died, do I not perceive that the Scripture which speaks of Christ, 'strong as a giant to run his race, ' has been in like manner imitated? And when he [the devil] brings forward Aesculapius as the raiser of the dead and healer of all diseases, may I not say that in this matter likewise he has imitated the prophecies about Christ? But since I have not quoted to you such Scripture as tells that Christ will do these things, I must necessarily remind you of one such: from which you can understand, how that to those destitute of a knowledge of God, I mean the Gentiles, who, 'having eyes, saw not, and having a heart, understood not, 'worshipping the images of wood, [how even to them] Scripture prophesied that they would renounce these [vanities], and hope in this Christ. It is thus written: 'Rejoice, thirsty wilderness: let the wilderness be glad, and blossom as the lily: the deserts of the Jordan shall both blossom and be glad: and the glory of Lebanon was given to it, and the honour of Carmel. And my people shall see the exaltation of the Lord, and the glory of God. Be strong, ye careless hands and enfeebled knees. Be comforted, ye faint in soul: be strong, fear not. Behold, our God gives, and will give, retributive judgment. He shall come and save us. Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall hear. Then the lame shall leap as an hart, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be distinct: for water has broken forth in the wilderness, and a valley in the thirsty land; and the parched ground shall become pools, and a spring of water shall [rise up] in the thirsty land.' The spring of living water which gushed forth from God in the land destitute of the knowledge of God, namely the land of the Gentiles, was this Christ, who also appeared in your nation, and healed those who were maimed, and deaf, and lame in body from their birth, causing them to leap, to hear, and to see, by His word. And having raised the dead, and causing them to live, by His deeds He compelled the men who lived at that time to recognise Him. But though they saw such works, they asserted it was magical art. For they dared to call Him a magician, and a deceiver of the people. Yet He wrought such works, and persuaded those who were [destined to] believe on Him; for even if any one be labouring under a defect of body, yet be an observer of the doctrines delivered by Him, He shall raise him up at His second advent perfectly sound, after He has made him immortal, and incorruptible, and free from grief. Chapter LXX.-So Also The Mysteries Of Mithras Are Distorted From The Prophecies Of Daniel And Isaiah. "And when those who record the mysteries of Mithras say that he was begotten of a rock, and call the place where those who believe in him are initiated a cave, do I not perceive here that the utterance of Daniel, that a stone without hands was cut out of a great mountain, has been imitated by them, and that they have attempted likewise to imitate the whole of Isaiah's words? For they contrived that the words of righteousness be quoted also by them. But I must repeat to you the words of Isaiah referred to, in order that from them you may know that these things are so. They are these: 'Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; those that are near shall know my might. The sinners in Zion are removed; trembling shall seize the impious. Who shall announce to you the everlasting place? The man who walks in righteousness, speaks in the right way, hates sin and unrighteousness, and keeps his hands pure from bribes, stops the ears from hearing the unjust judgment of blood closes the eyes from seeing unrighteousness: he shall dwell in the lofty cave of the strong rock. Bread shall be given to him, and his water [shall be] sure. Ye shall see the King with glory, and your eyes shall look far off. Your soul shall pursue diligently the fear of the Lord. Where is the scribe? where are the counsellors? where is he that numbers those who are nourished,-the small and great people? with whom they did not take counsel, nor knew the depth of the voices, so that they heard not. The people who are become depreciated, and there is no understanding in him who hears.' Now it is evident, that in this prophecy [allusion is made] to the bread which our Christ gave us to eat, in remembrance of His being made flesh for the sake of His believers, for whom also He suffered; and to the cup which He gave us to drink, in remembrance of His own blood, with giving of thanks. And this prophecy proves that we shall behold this very King with glory; and the very terms of the prophecy declare loudly, that the people foreknown to believe in Him were foreknown to pursue diligently the fear of the Lord. Moreover, these Scriptures are equally explicit in saying, that those who are reputed to know the writings of the Scriptures, and who hear the prophecies, have no understanding. And when I hear, Trypho," said I, "that Perseus was begotten of a virgin, I understand that the deceiving serpent counterfeited also this." (Dialogue of Justin, Philosopher and Martyr, with Trypho, a Jew, Chapters LXIX - LXX)
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Platonic & Greek influence on Christianity as a whole, including both Trinitarians and Anti-Trinitarians! |
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Platonic & Greek influence on Anti-Trinitarian Theology as taught by JW's and Christadelphians |